Seborrheic Dermatitis (SD) cured by Topical Caprylic Acid (C8:0)Triglycerides
-
Thanks for the information, especially since it is a direct response from Dr. Peat.
There are a number of threads on the RP forum about some ( I think it was Charlie, among others, a long time ago) getting relief from dry skin with b6. Some, however, did not find relief with the b6 supplementation.
I think the calcium/phosphate and vitamin d work systemically, and decrease inflammation/improve metabolism in the whole organism. For example, dialing in the calcium/phosphate ratio would decrease PTH, and thus allow for t3 to increase, thus improving metabolism across the whole organism.
Vitamin D is also known to be weakly androgenic (and thus oppositional to estogen), which is potentially a shared MOA with C8:0.
-
@jamezb46 Everytime I've tried to apply topical coconut oil or MCT oil, I get worse acne for several days at the application site -- has your research led you to any thoughts on that?
Many thanks
-
Yes,
Since it is known that caprylic acid is androgenic, it might be that the caprylic acid is acting locally as an androgen-mimetic thus giving you acne.
You can read about how it - "promotes the proliferation of prostate cancer" (I don't think androgens cause or worsen prostate cancer - in fact testosterone injections into prostate cancer cells cause the cancer to regress) - which really means that it is trophic to the prostate and thus either acts as an androgen-mimetic or enhances the activity of endogenous androgens.
-
@LetTheRedeemed said in Seborrheic Dermatitis (SD) cured by Topical Caprylic Acid (C8:0)Triglycerides:
@jamezb46 Everytime I've tried to apply topical coconut oil or MCT oil, I get worse acne for several days at the application site -- has your research led you to any thoughts on that?
Many thanks
Is it possible that this treatment is oil-based and thus able to penetrate thru sebum in any of the skin layers that were impenetrable with water-based treatments you've used before? And because it is an effective antimicrobial, it is able to attack effectively the embedded microbe causing the acne, and the seemingly worsening acne is pus coming out from a resolved focal infection?
-
Wow, interesting. Thanks a lot guys! I may push thru it topically for a week and see how it goes.
-
any updates here on long term success? I started today with the C8 oil lets see how it goes…
-
Do you have any "before" pictures? I want to compare my skin.
MCT oil worked for my face and hairline for a while, then stopped working randomly. It used to heal, now only serves as a moisturizer.
I was using C8/C10 combo MCT though. Wondering if C8 only might be worth the buy. -
@Mr-X dang I forgot *:D
I definitely have clearer/worsened skin depending on when I have good metabolism vs stress.
-
@jamezb46 How many hours did you leave the caprylic acid on your scalp each day?
-
@lykos (replying so others can see) I left it on indefinitely, didn't wash it off. If I felt I applied too much, I might wipe off the excess with a towel.
-
A brief google foo finds that all the medium chain triglycerides (MCT oil), are apparently antifungal and antibacterial.
I will hereby lather liberally. Any objections?
-
Lard and beef tallow (Just hear me out, I'm going somewhere with this), or any kind of tallow really, are antibacterial/antifungal as well and act as a preservative. You can store food made with beef tallow/lard on the shelf for months to years. They've found 50 year old Pemmican that was still good because it was made with tallow.
Mauritio pointed out the promising effect of MUFAs here, and a study where a guy used lard on his scalp and got tons of hair regrowth: https://bioenergetic.forum/post/57465
So not only do MCT and MUFA containing things like lard/tallow inhibit bacteria/fungus, MUFA at least also promotes growth. Providing some kind of nutrient benefit to the scalp.
Obviously would be better to use beef tallow than lard like the guy in the study since PUFA apparently destroys hair stem cells and MUFA promotes stem cell growth. Lard is mostly MUFA/SFA, but has a higher PUFA content than beef tallow. 4% PUFA for tallow vs 6-10% for lard.
Which begs the question, what's better, beef tallow or MCT oil? Probably a mixture of the two. Could be the ultimate bacteria/fungal killer + hair growth promoter. Although who is gonna go around slathered and oiled up like that all day? I guess if you work for home, or you could do it on the weekend if you're not going out. Or maybe overnight, I think thats what the guy in the study did.
Another win for the bacterial/fungal theory/parasitic theory of hair loss, which I am a proponent of.
-
@Hearthfire You don't need to go around "slathered" all day. Simply put it on before bed once a week and wash off in the morning. That simple.
