Peaty jobs
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Peat mentions the ideal job being one which allows for
- sunlight
- play
- environmental variety
- exploratory conversations
Which jobs fit this criteria? I am currently studying medicine and despite enjoying the material, I'm pessimistic about any medical career coming close to meeting this list.
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@Nabokov Complicated question.
I had intended to become a doctor, but I gave up and switched majors when the "pandemic" struck because I felt the Big Pharma bureaucracy and BS would be too much for me to handle day-to-day. I think that was the right choice for me but wasn't easy to weigh and figure out. I just know being immersed in that environment with the added stress of debt and studying would've been too stressful for me personally.
But I think if you go into medicine, you can potentially have a fulfilling, rewarding career. Many people bemoan and shun the lengthy path to medical school, and years later, they are still incredibly unhappy with their own professional decisions and aren't helping anyone. So what was the point? In addition, you should look for a career that pays enough to support your aspirations (purchasing a home, starting a family, etc.). If this list you made is really all you want, maybe a WFH job in tech or consulting?
This is also something I'm still trying to figure out myself. I've been debating between going down a more adventurous road which would require working far longer hours and probably incurring unnecessary, stupid stress, or an easier, stress-free route that pays very well but could be totally lacking in any constructive development. I'm praying everyday but definitely leaning towards the stress-free role. I'm hoping I can develop and create my own adventures somehow down the road without the crutch of a career.
pro_metabolic_inspo / @FWRhys
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Ideal jobs:
- Farmer
- Gardener
- Park Ranger
- Outdoor photographer
- Beach lifeguard
Otherwise, any job that allows you to work remotely. A standing desk is a great quality of life improvement. You could even set up a treadmill under the desk and work while you walk... You can also work outside on your backyard or balcony when the weather is nice.
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@oliveoil Park Ranger maybe good option...none of the rest will pay your bills???? except maybe farmer after some long, hard years of building capital & skills.
Maybe u should look at tech roles and do some certs in engineering or like cybersecurity expert and WFH. big need for cybersecurity, lots of job openings. if you wanted to do something easy in tech: HCM/Recruiting/HR.
pro_metabolic_inspo / @FWRhys
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@MB
I probably would have left med too if I had entered during pandemic, as the vaxx would have been non-negotiable then. I want to do medicine since it is interesting and challenging but the entire practice, such as the atmosphere and working conditions of hospitals worries me. You're right that it all hinges on your aspirations. Id be willing to work stressful and unpleasant medical position for a longterm payoff, I want to find something adventurous as the whole "begrudgingly work as little as possible to earn enough for the house and kids" depresses me. -
@Nabokov Totally agree, and yes I was being forced to get vax or else I couldn't go to labs.
It really sucked, but I discovered Ray Peat during that time which helped me a lot. -
@MB The jobs I listed fit OP's criteria. I'm sure there are a ton of jobs that I missed, that don't compromise so much in salary.
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@oliveoil
just hating bc i wish I could just be a beach lifeguard lol -
@MB I have thought about it too. If I'm destined to be a slave wagey, I might as well have a job that maximizes my health.
I found the IT field and remote working to be a good middle ground. You can work around most of the typical disadvantages of having a desk job by ergomaxxing your set up with a standing desk, split ergonomic keyboard, ergonomic alternatives to chairs like yoga balls, kneeling chairs, stools, or deep squatting; standing on a grounding mat, rolling a tennis ball under your feet, applying red light therapy, wearing blue-light blocking glasses, or better yet working outdoors if the weather allows it. The biggest disadvantage is the lack of social interaction, but if you live with your family, it can be fantastic, especially if you have children.
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While it is unfortunately indoors, I work in the warehouse for a small coffee chain allowing me endless amounts of free coffee, Mexican Coke, and orange juice. I work with 4 close friends who like absurd and offensive humor. While not practitioners themselves they are well aware of Ray Peat at this point. I’ve turned one into a white rice w/ coconut oil lifer and the other has a morning carrot every day now. There is daily play and laughter. Can’t complain. The ideal Peaty slacker job by my standards.
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@Nabokov well
Gardeners
THEY did study to look which job has the happiest people, and they found out that gardeners are the happiest
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@basednigga2006 im jw how they are happy if they can’t afford food
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@Nabokov
It's certainly not for everybody but I'm currently working on becoming a lineman.
Sunlight: work exclusively outdoors
Play: this is mostly mindset i think. It's not a job you can get away with not taking seriously but it can definitely be fun and there is a (usually healthy) aspect of competition in the trade.
Environmental variety: there are powerlines everywhere, everybody needs power
Exploratory conversations: you have to be intelligent and creative to be a lineman, problem solving is a huge part of it. Many people in the trade with unique aspirations and unusual lifestylesIt's quite a process to become a lineman. I'm in a 17 week pre-apprentice program now, and a 7,000 hour apprenticeship follows this (apprenticeships are pretty hard to get, you have to be persistent) but after that, you get what they call a yellow ticket which declares you a journeyman lineman, and as a journeyman lineman you can work pretty much anywhere as much or as little as you want. Only caveat is you have to be strong (physically, mentally, spiritually) or you will not make it.
Pays damn well too
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@cale That sounds really fun. I wish you the best!
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stone mason or bricklayer perhaps. mentioned somewhere else that grip strength correlates with lifespan
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@brenn My friend, the only "Peaty" job is a job you love.
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@brenn Yes, but increasing your grip strength doesn't increase your lifespan.
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@oliveoil thank you!
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@MB my husband has a lawn mowing/ gardening business which earns 100k a year. This is in Australia, we definitely don’t struggle. But he hates his job…so I guess he’s not one of the statistics
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@MB I’m a beach lifeguard; the job could pay your bills depending on your location and rank. More popular beaches or places that are warm year-round tend to make something closer to a living wage or even salary.
Obviously rookies and the first few years tend to only make minimum wage or slightly above it, but if you take on more serious roles like such as a supervisor you start making a considerable amount of cash. The role can take over a decade(possibly two) to reach, but Captains can make a very comfortable salary as well.
