Source for bulk 6-keto-p4
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I have found a source (actually many sources) for bulk 6-keto-progesterone:
https://chemicalbook.com/ProductList_EN.aspx?cbn=CB7171662
I've been wondering what it would be like to take 100mg of this stuff a day since Haidut once talked about that scenario on RPF.
100mg/d × 100 days = 10g. Some suppliers offer 25g, that's 250 days. Others only have 1kg, that would be 30 YEARS! Actually, that sounds interesting; buy a single pack in bulk, test it, preserve most of it, and enjoy almost a lifetime supply. Big question remaining is, how safe are such high doses?
I don't know the cost of any of these suppliers, but if it was something like $1000 for 25g (it's probably not this much) then that would still be 2.5x cheaper than Idealabs.
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@engineer I doubt they have it already synthesised.
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What would the advantages of this be over progesterone?
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@jamezb46 100mg of regular progesterone will turn you transgender, 6-keto almost certainly won't. It is a pure GR antagonist which means it prevents muscle breakdown and cortisol responses elsewhere and nothing else.
More juicy details: https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/6-keto-p4-liquid-6-ketoprogesterone-for-lab-r-d.24968/
This is why it's my favorite Idealabs supplement
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@alfredoolivas so let's say it's $4000 for some good amount, 100g. That's still almost 3x cheaper than Idealabs.
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@engineer You seem to think it's worth it, so I won't question your excessive budget.
But keep in mind, I don't think there exists a commericialaly available purity test for 6 keto P4, so you would have to get another company to develop a test for it. Maybe costing another thousand. Otherwise they could send you another product like cholesterol and laugh at you.
In the end of the day, you are just a private client and probably don't care that much about 100g of anything custom- it's probably not worth the effort, unless you want much more.
You seem smart so I would consider looking to synthesise it yourself from progesterone powder.
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@engineer said in Source for bulk 6-keto-p4:
100mg of regular progesterone will turn you transgender
it doesn't
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@alfredoolivas said in Source for bulk 6-keto-p4:
You seem smart so I would consider looking to synthesise it yourself from progesterone powder.
You know, I have been seriously considering this not only for 6-keto but also all the other compounds that are hard/impossible/risky to get (you probably know which ones). Only problem is my project area is all equipped for electrical engineering and I was already planning on somehow adding an optical area too.
This is what I mean by optical:
How much stuff do you need for this kind of biochem? I DO know cheap and cheerful fumehoods are a thing
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@ethan said in Source for bulk 6-keto-p4:
@engineer said in Source for bulk 6-keto-p4:
100mg of regular progesterone will turn you transgender
it doesn't
So why do some people make a huge fuss about high dose prog?
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@engineer femineity =/= neoteny, estrogen is more likely to make someone look like a women.
its more likely they are already hypothyroid to begin with? the more hyperthyroid and the better your thiamine status is, the better your 5ar enzyme works. friends of friends have told me their DHT significantly rose (on bloodwork) from high dose progesterone. the back door pathway is used moreso the more eu/hyperthyroid you are. if you tend to run off adrenaline and estrogen its possible its not converted/used very well. route of administration matters too, you can ask GPT where 5ar1/2/3 enzymes are located on what parts of the skin, but the enzymes and enzyme location on the skin responsible for T->DHT,DHEA->DHT, P4->backdoor->DHT are not uniform.
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@engineer I think you would need microbes to convert the progesterone or use enzymes.
