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    • engineerE Offline
      engineer @alfredoolivas
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      @alfredoolivas so let's say it's $4000 for some good amount, 100g. That's still almost 3x cheaper than Idealabs.

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        alfredoolivas @engineer
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        @engineer You seem to think it's worth it, so I won't question your excessive budget.

        But keep in mind, I don't think there exists a commericialaly available purity test for 6 keto P4, so you would have to get another company to develop a test for it. Maybe costing another thousand. Otherwise they could send you another product like cholesterol and laugh at you.

        In the end of the day, you are just a private client and probably don't care that much about 100g of anything custom- it's probably not worth the effort, unless you want much more.

        You seem smart so I would consider looking to synthesise it yourself from progesterone powder.

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        • ethanE Offline
          ethan @engineer
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          @engineer said in Source for bulk 6-keto-p4:

          100mg of regular progesterone will turn you transgender

          it doesn't

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          • engineerE Offline
            engineer @alfredoolivas
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            @alfredoolivas said in Source for bulk 6-keto-p4:

            You seem smart so I would consider looking to synthesise it yourself from progesterone powder.

            You know, I have been seriously considering this not only for 6-keto but also all the other compounds that are hard/impossible/risky to get (you probably know which ones). Only problem is my project area is all equipped for electrical engineering and I was already planning on somehow adding an optical area too.

            This is what I mean by optical:
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            How much stuff do you need for this kind of biochem? I DO know cheap and cheerful fumehoods are a thing

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            • engineerE Offline
              engineer @ethan
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              @ethan said in Source for bulk 6-keto-p4:

              @engineer said in Source for bulk 6-keto-p4:

              100mg of regular progesterone will turn you transgender

              it doesn't

              So why do some people make a huge fuss about high dose prog?

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              • ethanE Offline
                ethan @engineer
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                @engineer femineity =/= neoteny, estrogen is more likely to make someone look like a women.

                its more likely they are already hypothyroid to begin with? the more hyperthyroid and the better your thiamine status is, the better your 5ar enzyme works. friends of friends have told me their DHT significantly rose (on bloodwork) from high dose progesterone. the back door pathway is used moreso the more eu/hyperthyroid you are. if you tend to run off adrenaline and estrogen its possible its not converted/used very well. route of administration matters too, you can ask GPT where 5ar1/2/3 enzymes are located on what parts of the skin, but the enzymes and enzyme location on the skin responsible for T->DHT,DHEA->DHT, P4->backdoor->DHT are not uniform.

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                • alfredoolivasA Offline
                  alfredoolivas @engineer
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                  @engineer I think you would need microbes to convert the progesterone or use enzymes.

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                  • engineerE Offline
                    engineer
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                    Found one with prices

                    https://www.chemenu.com/products/2243-08-5.html

                    $757 for 25g

                    That's 3.6x cheaper than Idealabs

                    Only question remaining is authenticity

                    If we knew the spectrum of 6-keto-p4 then I could use a spectrometer at my college to check the purity

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                    • alfredoolivasA Offline
                      alfredoolivas @engineer
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                      @engineer Get 5g and try it out. Only 300 dollars.

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                      • lobotomizeL Offline
                        lobotomize @engineer
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                        @engineer, don't you think 97% purity is rather dangerous

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                        • engineerE Offline
                          engineer @lobotomize
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                          @lobotomize what purity is Idealabs?

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                          • lobotomizeL Offline
                            lobotomize @engineer
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                            @engineer level 10

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                            • engineerE Offline
                              engineer @lobotomize
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                              @lobotomize level 10??
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