Stanolabs DHT gel
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Hmm...
What's more likely: that someone would make a bunch of fake accounts to sell fake products, or that someone could go thru all the proper channels and sell us DHT from legit chemical vendors, which for some reason no one else has apparently ever been able to do?
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@Cicero what stops you from using the Idealabs 11kDHT?
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@Cicero I have 50 grams of T powder from them
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@Cicero see if people got blood tests. That’s the only way you can find out if it’s real or not, no tests for DHT e or p are available to public.
I don’t trust them based off of personal biases, when something is rare as a DHT ester in this steroid market, I stay away.
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Update:
Seems a bit sus...
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@alfredoolivas Yeah but even those can be faked. We need blood tests from legit guys. Unless one of the OG niggas from the community shows us a blood test, I'm going to assume 5ARSociety is a scam job.
edit: found a reddit comment about 5-AR Society products
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@Cicero I have done up to 600mg a day of DHT from Purple Panda Labs, back in the golden days, and didn't feel anything. I did 2100mg of testosterone from two seperate suppliers (PPL and EOQ rip), my test levels were at the tests limit, didn't feel anything. I have done up to 300mcg of thyroid from IdeaLabs and Ibraham Abhidi, undetectable TSH. didn't feel anything.
Feelz reports are the worst source of information.
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@alfredoolivas They're not the be-all end-all. But the odds of this being another scam were already high. And now look at all this evidence together.
I'm not saying it's a scam. But I am saying no one should trust it.
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what is the point of doing this
dht is not particularly anabolic compared to other steroids is itand secondly, it's more of a health steroid people will take to optimize rather than do cycles with for bodybuilding as a result of that. what's the point of buying an estered product when one could just use DHT in dmso taken transdermally or in olive oil taken orally.
the whole point of the synthesized anabolic steroids is that the anabolic:androgenic ratio is higher, why would someone take something with a natural lower ratio
seems like a product with not really a good market fit
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@sunsunsun not everybody wants anabolism, maybe you just want to look manlier but don't want/need to be bigger, also you can use topical dht to regrow hair
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@Cicero Hi Cicero, this post/account on x is actually me. I can confirm that I do not believe this product is real. I understand that "feels" reports aren't exactly definitive, but I generally think I have a good sense for when androgens are working properly.
I can subjectively "feel" doses as low as 1-2mg for substances like 11-keto-DHT & androsterone. The effects of both are very obvious. With andro I immediately dry out physiologically, and experience signs of lowered E2 + GABA agonism. (Improved sleep and calmness) I can "feel" low doses of progesterone to some extent, granted I get negative effects from it largely. Neurosteroid agents like 5a/3a-DHP have an obvious effect as well.
Insofar as 11-keto goes. Its effects are very obvious. At doses as low as 1mg/day, my physique dries out substantially. I go from a "wet" physique to a dry physique where my abdominals are visible practically overnight. The mental effects are very apparent and exactly what I've come to expect from 5AR androgens. Similar to pharmaceutical oxandrolone and proviron (much drier) - both of which I've had in the past.
The "DHT Enanthate" from 5AR-Society has no such effect whatsoever, whatever effect it has is completely indistinguishable from my baseline on 200mg test/wk. I aromatize fairly heavily (though I have a fairly good genetic tolerance for high E2 I think) and I expected it to dry my physique out somewhat or have a calming neurosteroid effect. Pretty much anything at all, and I got nothing. No increased facial hair growth, still holding water, no neurosteroid effect to speak of. Basically nothing that I've come to expect from alpha-reduced androgens, anti-estrogenic agents, or neurosteroids was present with this product.
I'm not saying it contains nothing at all, and I've yet to have lab work done to confirm (I'm not sure what test I would even get other than total DHT, especially if it ends up being some unknown other substance) - but I see no reason to believe that this product contains anything but MCT oil.
I still have about 1/3rd of a vial left after several weeks of convincing myself I just needed to wait for effects, so if there is interest I'd be willing to send it off for testing.
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In short, I've had more obvious effects from 3-4 days of tiny 11-keto doses than I've had from 6 weeks of "DHTE" "200mg"/week.
IMO, It's super fake.
