Masturbation has Androgen-Boosting effects
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Here's my list of based porn fetishes:
Lesbian femdom, women dominating or bullying other women
Obvious one but women being submissive and getting dominated, this type of porn increases aggression and dominant sexual energy
Fauxbait
White women taking white dick
Brown women such as Asians or Latinas getting absolutely dominated by a white man/men
Raceplay / BWC porn or caption photos
Softcore artistic erotic nudity, check out elitebabes.com
Women, preferably 18-22 year olds masturbating
Women being cucked by menAt one point I wanted to make my own pron site that didn't have BBC bullshit everywhere or women with an excess of tattoos that encouraged white male sexual dominance like BAP has talked about, but this is risky for copyright reasons, one of the only downsides in my opinion of looking at porn is the constant bombarding of BBC/BLACKED pron.
I think it's interesting to address the girlfriend problem which is how much money you have to shell out for them, acknowledging the negative traits that all females exhibit that you will have to deal with in order to keep a gf, the divorce rate, how much attention they want from you, pregnancy risk, and of course the hoops you have to hop through today to even get one. It's great having raw sex with a woman not on birth control but it's costly and perhaps they may not be the ideal woman to birth your children, especially if you have "extreme" alt health beliefs about vaccines and diet. I assume that most men who talk about girlfriends online aren't very serious with them and don't have a strong urge to direct them towards their beliefs. I'm not saying that being in a relationship completely compromises your time and energy but there's a lack of praise and a strong negative perception of men who decide that being single is more worth while. Hence people thinking masturbating is so horrible but sex is based and wholesome.
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@peatyourmeat said in Masturbation has Androgen-Boosting effects:
i think no fap people would find they can't enjoy their orgasm even if they didn't have their dumb idology - its post hoc rationalization of being sex repressed
A bit off topic, but I have suspected for some time that the NoFap movement is a PsyOp.
I haven't been around that subreddit for many years, but I was a bit active there about ten years ago. It was full of guys who became obsessed with never ejaculating. You could read posts like "I had sex with my girlfriend. Is that a relapse?" or "My girlfriend gave me a handjob, I completely messed up" or "I had a wet dream. Is all my progress gone and should I reset my counter?"
Some guys lived in constant fear of a normal sexual relationship before they reached the magical "90 days" (which never happened in most cases). They equated having sex with watching hardcore porn.
Also, the general advice on NoFap seems to be: "Count the days, grit your teeth and exert willpower. Take cold showers and meditate and fast to make better progress and to train your willpower." Which just doesn't work for the vast majority of people. It keeps guys in a constant loop of binging on porn, beating themselves up, start a new "streak", repeat... It makes me wonder whether it's just a Psyop to keep young guys watching porn.
What also makes me wonder is that there was another porn recovery forum. One that was way smaller and unknown. The founder of NoFap bought this forum some years ago. At the end of last year he suddenly closed it down for reasons that were utterly bizarre. Because of the pressure of the porn industry he didn't have the energy and resources to operate the forum etc. Yet he continues his nofap forum, which is a hundred times bigger. The founder, Alexander Rhodes, is a very sketchy figure in my opinion.
By the way, you username sounds like a slang for masturbation.
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@Luke It's interesting you say that because some of the people who's philosophy on life is nature heavy like sv3rige think that sexual desire is a natural human urge and religions want to control people by telling them their natural urges are evil. Break humans down based on their nature to lower them energetically and view themselves as evil and lesser. I personally believe people on average, anyone born within the system we're in is neurotic and broken, needing assurance from others if their nature and desires are good or bad. Obviously there are the leftists who need to download a new belief to their system every few months to be "progressive" or be shunned by their social group, but humans in general today yearn to be accepted and when religion is involved, it's harsh when someone believes they are favored or not favored by their creator for their sexual urges.For those who aren't religious there is still the secular argument that objectifying women and viewing them as sex objects, even when they specifically present themselves in that way is wrong. Spending time in your day to masturbate is subjective to YOU but pornography is a larger debate where of course you can argue they can consent, but can they really, what is consent, it gets messy, especially today where women are hyper emotional, yet are supposed to be seen as equal decision making potential voters comparable to men.
To me strong desire for nofap is of the overthinker, and I am an overthinker, but I decided to stop thinking about this topic because it's pointless.
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I think we should also take in context fapping with or w/o porn and also the frequency.
I think to fap once per week to no porn is okay, fapping 3 times per day w/o porn is def also toxic. But the worst is to fap to porn. -
@Mr-X Why? What makes porn inherently harmful?
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"Porn is like sugar and sugar is like cocaine."
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@shedim Coomers do not belong here
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@shedim Hi, from my experience, i suggest:
People can feel better in some aspect from emitting, such as feeling more "relaxed" specifically in the short term,
In the long term, emitting too frequently, relative to the person's capacity, can have negative effects, such as less energy, less serenity, less sovereignty, less well-being, more worry, more shame, more guilt, more impotency, a higher feeling of needing help from an external source such as "god"Considering the way the idea of "Semen retention" is promoted on social medias and youtube, such as:
Certain words/ideas commonly used in a sensationalist and exaggerated way, such as "journey", "aura", calling each other "king", "these women are not worthy of your seeds", "keep grinding", "Brahmacharya"
The association with ideas such as "sigma male", with practices such as cold shower, the use of characters from religious books or people considered "high status" to legitimize the practice, the net effect in part seems clear:
Increased division, pride, feelings of superiority and/or disdain towards women and men who engage in sexual acts, the tendency to go against one's own instincts to follow theories which in part are potentially fictions, and less tendency to create childrens
In this context, it's anti-life, anti-unity, anti-masculinity, and can be seen as a potential psyop, at least in part
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@Sugar As I said before I dont give a fuck about coomer studies. Only thing that needs to said that porn is a population control tool that makes people docile and making them to waste their energy surplus into degenerate activity instead of starting a revolution and raising up.
Enojoy your cooming.
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@milkgains_bro Just clear things up, Im not anti sex or anything like that. That some twisted prudent logic of nofap stoic retards. Stop jerking off and go fuck real women.
Im just anti porn/anti coomer and I will beat anyone with with a stick who will post any shit that promotes this degenerate behaviour. Go back to 4chan if you want to enjoy your anime gooning bullshit.
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By the way: Mindgeek was bought by a company with the name "Ethical Capital Partners".
You can't make this shit up.
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The main issue is the sharp increase in prolactin although the better your metabolism the better you'll be able to handle that increase and go back to baseline quicker.
I believe porn, in its current state, is also a psyop. The type of content that is being pushed to people is the psyop. Porn used to be somewhat tasteful back in the 90s and so. Nothing compared to what the internet offers to young guys nowadays.
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@peatyourmeat ye just made thread on that Reich pill
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@milkgains_bro said in Masturbation has Androgen-Boosting effects:
makes people docile and making them to waste their energy surplus into degenerate activity instead of starting a revolution and raising up.
Also, many young guys who find their way to NoFap have PIED and/or low-testosterone (ironically). They need to treat the physical & bioenergetic cause before the perceived psychological cause (i.e. the symptom). NoFap doesn't have a 'bioenergetic' understanding and so its rightly critiqued for promoting endless streaks while the underlying causes - societal (as your attached image indicates) and individual (e.g. hormonal, etc.) - remain unaddressed and so the problem never goes away.
And as for the societal problem, this could be addressed with internet censorship as many countries have done. Or, even better, shutting down such industries that are deliberating provoking degeneration of the populace. And neither of these need to have a religious overtone, yet further unfortunately, religious communities are the only ones of any size and scale with anti-porn convictions. So any anti-porn positions are reflexively interpreted to be religious in nature and draw fire thusly. And then that's bringing us into another psy-op.
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@shedim said in Masturbation has Androgen-Boosting effects:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/135817/
This study shows that masturbation heavily boosts pregnenolone, testosterone, DHT, and more. It does also show that it boosts cortisol and estradiol, however I would say the DHT boost would solve that.
This also reminds me of a haidut article which states the following:
If the government holds the firm belief that sexually satisfied soldiers are happy, anti-war, and disobedient and the govt has openly pushed the incel “phenotype” on its soldiers as far as back as WWI, then it does not seem too much of a conspiracy to assume the same would be (or has already been) attempted on a nationwide scale, and not just in regards to military service.
Cap
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@milkgains_bro Never implied PORN wasn't harmful, porn is definitely a big no, I just said masturbation isn't the devil you make it out to be. I find it interesting how you immediately assume someone's pro-porn the moment they say masturbation isn't unhealthy. Porn is definitely an entirely different issue which has a plethora of negative effects, however if ones endocrine system was in a good state they wouldn't get any "side-effects" from it the same way they wouldn't get any side effects from sex (unless they are unhealthy and have POIS or something), ejaculation is ejaculation.
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Judging by the year the study was made in and the fact it's not mentioned it's also implied that porn wasn't a factor here, so again the topic is solely masturbation. Not touching your dick isn't gonna give you superpowers and if it somehow does, you're suffering from a bigger issue.
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@basednigga2006 I am absolutely shocked about the amount of effort that went into this thought-provoking and paradigm shattering response of yours.
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Like I said, you can edge without ejaculation and actually increase libido and sexual energy and testosterone.
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@Ecstatic_Hamster why not creating babies at the same time?