Masturbation has Androgen-Boosting effects
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@milkgains_bro said in Masturbation has Androgen-Boosting effects:
makes people docile and making them to waste their energy surplus into degenerate activity instead of starting a revolution and raising up.
Also, many young guys who find their way to NoFap have PIED and/or low-testosterone (ironically). They need to treat the physical & bioenergetic cause before the perceived psychological cause (i.e. the symptom). NoFap doesn't have a 'bioenergetic' understanding and so its rightly critiqued for promoting endless streaks while the underlying causes - societal (as your attached image indicates) and individual (e.g. hormonal, etc.) - remain unaddressed and so the problem never goes away.
And as for the societal problem, this could be addressed with internet censorship as many countries have done. Or, even better, shutting down such industries that are deliberating provoking degeneration of the populace. And neither of these need to have a religious overtone, yet further unfortunately, religious communities are the only ones of any size and scale with anti-porn convictions. So any anti-porn positions are reflexively interpreted to be religious in nature and draw fire thusly. And then that's bringing us into another psy-op.
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@shedim said in Masturbation has Androgen-Boosting effects:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/135817/
This study shows that masturbation heavily boosts pregnenolone, testosterone, DHT, and more. It does also show that it boosts cortisol and estradiol, however I would say the DHT boost would solve that.
This also reminds me of a haidut article which states the following:
If the government holds the firm belief that sexually satisfied soldiers are happy, anti-war, and disobedient and the govt has openly pushed the incel “phenotype” on its soldiers as far as back as WWI, then it does not seem too much of a conspiracy to assume the same would be (or has already been) attempted on a nationwide scale, and not just in regards to military service.
Cap
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@milkgains_bro Never implied PORN wasn't harmful, porn is definitely a big no, I just said masturbation isn't the devil you make it out to be. I find it interesting how you immediately assume someone's pro-porn the moment they say masturbation isn't unhealthy. Porn is definitely an entirely different issue which has a plethora of negative effects, however if ones endocrine system was in a good state they wouldn't get any "side-effects" from it the same way they wouldn't get any side effects from sex (unless they are unhealthy and have POIS or something), ejaculation is ejaculation.
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Judging by the year the study was made in and the fact it's not mentioned it's also implied that porn wasn't a factor here, so again the topic is solely masturbation. Not touching your dick isn't gonna give you superpowers and if it somehow does, you're suffering from a bigger issue.
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@basednigga2006 I am absolutely shocked about the amount of effort that went into this thought-provoking and paradigm shattering response of yours.
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Like I said, you can edge without ejaculation and actually increase libido and sexual energy and testosterone.
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@Ecstatic_Hamster why not creating babies at the same time?
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@jwayne Thanks for your comment. What do you think Is good and healthy way how to educate someone about the harmfulness of pornography.
Lets say you would like to teach your son about this. But you dont want to a ve prudent, victorian nofaper. Blocking the internet access might work for a while but its maybe gonna make things worse. You may want them to find the reason not to do it themselves.
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@Truth said in Masturbation has Androgen-Boosting effects:
@Ecstatic_Hamster why not creating babies at the same time?
not while masturbating, I don't worry about that.
@milkgains_bro said in Masturbation has Androgen-Boosting effects:
@jwayne Thanks for your comment. What do you think Is good and healthy way how to educate someone about the harmfulness of pornography.
Lets say you would like to teach your son about this. But you dont want to a ve prudent, victorian nofaper. Blocking the internet access might work for a while but its maybe gonna make things worse. You may want them to find the reason not to do it themselves.
I have children and I have discussed this with my son. It's really just a practical issue once he reaches a certain age -- why it can mess up your sex life. Just education.
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I really think its a matter of balance and frequency. Keep the pipes flowing but keep pressure in the pipes. I coined this phrase myself.
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Can we all just agree on 0-3x per week, no porn?
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@milkgains_bro At young ages, carefully restrict and monitor screen usage so they don't accidentally stumble upon inappropriate things (like all of us did). This definitely means having a firewall in the house censoring degenerate things from the network.
At older ages keep all of that, but appreciate that it is largely out of your control. So remain a positive influence and keep bringing positive opportunities into their life so they are busy, happy, healthy, engaged with the world, have friends, have passionate hobbies, learning new things, expanding their personality, and so forth. Replace the appeal of degenerate habits with positive outlet, and that means a conscious intent in designing environments, especially at home.
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@jwayne WE NEED INTERNET CENSORSHIP AND WE NEED IT NOW! WE NEED TO RID THE INTERNET OF DISGUSTING AND OBJECTIFYING WEBSITES LIKE 4CHAN.
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@Sugar said in Masturbation has Androgen-Boosting effects:
@jwayne WE NEED INTERNET CENSORSHIP AND WE NEED IT NOW! WE NEED TO RID THE INTERNET OF DISGUSTING AND OBJECTIFYING WEBSITES LIKE 4CHAN.
I don't know much about 4Chan but I take an anti-prostitution position and the Adult Film Industry is nothing but prostitution. I think this is an obvious degeneracy considering the dignity, significance and potential of human beings, especially of human females whom are the main victims. Women and girls should not be treated as commodities to be bought and sold for pleasure on the market. The entire idea of commodifying sexual pleasure is a kind of degeneration of 'taste' and that's another symptom of civilizational decay in itself.
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@shedim said in Masturbation has Androgen-Boosting effects:
@basednigga2006 I am absolutely shocked about the amount of effort that went into this thought-provoking and paradigm shattering response of yours.
Masturbating will not INCREASE any androgens
I will debunk it soon and destroy you with the power of facts and logic -
@basednigga2006 Absolutely, you've done such a great job so far, not even debating the original study but instead just saying "cope", "you're wrong", etc. Well, I don't expect much of an intellectual response from a child who isn't even 18 yet anyways, judging by your username.
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@shedim whaat, what are you talking about
I said "i will debunk it SOON" soon, not NOW
Learn to readNot now, because its now me bedtime (since i am not 18 as you said)
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@basednigga2006 I said it because for over a week now all you've been saying is "Cope", on this thread and others relating to the same topic. I can read perfectly dumbass, maybe you should learn to read better.
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@Sugar If you want a curated porn tab then just use reddit?
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@Lovesickhs18 Yes, reddit as much as it sucks, is an elite pron platform, so was tumblr before they nuked it, upvotes ensure that the pron you're looking for was curated by high IQ autists before it was shown to you.
