Calcium supplement
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@TheSir said in Calcium supplement:
@Peatly neglible effect in contrast to how much calcium is coming in with the citrate. I can easily push myself into hypercalcemia with citrate.
Ok, how much were you taking to become hypercalcemic?
How would you know you were hypercalcemic? Symptoms?There are other good reasons to avoid citric acid
Manufactured citric acid is a powerful inflammatory/allergy agent
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i no longer supplement Ca as i have concluded i don't need many direct sources or particularly large amounts to maintain normal Ca status and keep PTH down, however, when i did, i used calcium carbonate derived from egg shells.
the standard recommendation i have seen was to dissolve calcium carbonate in something and drink it but i didn't really want to take a large bolus of Ca at once nor did i want to drink this multiple times a day, so what i ended up doing was mixing a tiny bit of vinegar with the eggshell calcium and adding it into the rice cooker while cooking jasmine rice. this didn't turn out particularly bad but it also didn't mix particularly amazing but it was still perfectly edible and allowed a steady supply of Ca throughout the day whenever i ate rice instead of a bolus.
logic would dictate this would work better with slaked lime which is part of the nixtamalization process but i never got around to doing that. the chinese did this to sticky rice to create mortar for the great wall.
before i discontinued Ca supplementation, the two other varieties that i wanted to experiment with:
organic kale and collard green powder: i've seen a few such products, some variance in Ca quantity but a good amount nonetheless
wild caught fish bone calcium: this product in particular https://www.traditionalfoods.org/fish-bone-calciu-mchc-powder.html
never got around to trying either kind as i said, i discontinued Ca supplementation but those are the two products that are not commonly recommended that i wanted to mess around with.
when i was experimenting with Ca supplementation i enjoyed only supplementing modestly small amounts but spread out throughout the day.
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@TheSir What about bloating and potential constipation?, you stomach acid needs to be tip top to avoid those possibilities, no?
I could have sworn @Amazoniac thought citrate it was okay. -
One of the best things for me has been buying gelatine capsules and a capsule maker.
This is super useful, for example for magnesium glycinate, cascara, niacinamide, thiamine and all the other stuff that tastes bad.
You can find it easily on amazon, they're all the same and around 20 EUR, capsules also aren't expensive. Also grind the eggshell very well so it doesn't cause intestinal issues.
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@Not_James_Bond Calcium CITRATE? As in calcium with toxic mold derivate?? Ignore this suggestion at all costs OP!!
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@Not_James_Bond
If people consume massive amounts of citrate from foods without problems and calcium carbonate isn't considered troubling, why would the combination lead to issues? Calcium doesn't have to be paired with industrial citrate.
Dietary citrate is metabolized primarily in the liver, any effect on the kidneys must be indirect. Induction of calcium loss seems unlikely, but if it occurs, it's compensated by its enhancing effect on absorption.
It's a good salt and exposure to it shouldn't be regulated as drugs.
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@Amazoniac "Just eat the toxic mold slave! It's good for you!"
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@CO3 said in Calcium supplement:
@Amazoniac "Just eat the toxic mold slave! It's good for you!"
@Amazoniac said in Calcium supplement:
@Not_James_Bond
Calcium doesn't have to be paired with industrial citrate.
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@Peatly my calcium is naturally at the upper end of the reference range due to a few reasons. Even small amounts of calcium make my muscles twitch regardless of whether the source is organic or supplemental (citrate), indicating that serum calcium levels are increasing in both cases. Rather than absolute hypercalcemia, it could also be causing relative Mg or K deficiency, nevertheless the outcome is the same, i.e. increase in calcium levels.
@Not_James_Bond haven't experienced bloating or constipation.
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@TheSir Thank you Sir
Are you still going to remain active on RPF?
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@Not_James_Bond It's habitual, so yeah. Until I'm banned for not conforming enough.
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@TheSir Take care, it's kinda depressing though
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@Not_James_Bond Yeah, it is sad and frustrating. Thanks.
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@TheSir Thank you for your reply. You can also get muscle twitching from low blood calcium or low magnesium.
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@Peatly Yeah, that's true. Taking a lot of magnesium tends to counter the twitching resulting from excess calcium. Strangely, all my electrolytes are above average within their respective reference ranges, so there could be more to it than mere electrolyte levels.
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I second all the recommendations for eggshell. It's cost effective, cuts down waste, and has basically no taste so it can go in practically anything. Burger patties, pancake batter, omelets, masa tortillas are some of my favorites. I've also put it in soups before, but it works best in thicker soups.
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@voldtzeig I saw a Chris Masterjohn video where he recommended bone meal. I think the potential downsides would be heavy metals and phosphate content. I decided to incorporate it myself, hopefully not to my detriment. I digest it really well and it mixes with most foods without much of a taste or change in mouth feel.
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@Jonk interesting, will look into it. Just found some super cheap calcium carbonate powder, bought a kilo for 7€ so will habe to go through that first though.
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@voldtzeig Okay! I tried making the calcium carbonate work for a while, even mixing with vinegar, but I unfortunately don't digest it well. But we're all different, hopefully it works for you and yours
