Eczema Cures?
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i had a flare-up on my hands recently. i wasn't able to deduce exactly what caused the flare-up, as it occurred while i was staying out of town for a period of time.
i ordered organic whipped beef tallow and it provided some relief and seemed to help, my hands got cut up pretty bad from the itching. i can't confidently say the beef tallow "solved" the problem on it's lonesome but it definitely helped kickstart the healing process. it's a very useful product and a little goes a long way, i think it would provide some nice relief.
as it was the first time (that i can recall) something like this happened to me, i don't have any insights on the underlying cause, as i said in my case i suspect an allergen to something in the new environment, i didn't have the time to investigate further so i took the beef tallow route and was satisfied with the relief provided. my hunch tells me in my situation the allergen was the soap or detergent i had available, but that is just a guess.
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@CatlikeLantern Progest-E doesn't do anything?
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@CO3 haven’t tried. You think it’s safe for a breastfeeding mother? Would it be applied to the gums or on the eczema-afflicted skin?
I actually have been wanting to get some for myself.
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@oldchem thank you for the response.
She has been undereating too so we are experimenting with consistent high calories.
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@CatlikeLantern Definitely get it! It's indispensable, and one of the few things I take almost whenever I am in a difficult situation.
Katharina Dalton (the pioneer of progesterone supplementation) says women can take it safely during breastfeeding:
"Mother's can breast-feed while receiving progesterone; indeed, progesterone enhances lactation, which is an additional bonus"
I think it would be good to ask other people that have kids, sadly I don't have contact with them as I'm not using Twitter currently. I think @Hawkeye-Spirit might know more about this topic. If he's not responsive on here maybe asking through Twitter might be an option, you can tell him I told you to heh.
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Progest-e on and around the eczema site, plus a drop on the gums morning and night, cured eczema for my sister.
Anything to antagonize estrogen And promote Progesterone and preg production. If you aren’t experiencing results with progesterone, it may need to be taken with thyroid according to Ray.I don’t know if Ray has spoken negatively about progesterone while breast-feeding, but he says he was a progesterone-baby, because of his mom‘s progesterone or pregnenolone supplementation While he was in the womb. He seems to be a fan.
One drop is approx the physiological dose stretched over a few hrs, and the most Ray suggested as a rule of thumb (one drop morning and one drop evening). I don’t know how it could be a problem for a child while breast-feeding, When it will be no more than a physiologically proportionate dose for the mother, to be ideally producing anyway, to get her production ramped back up. Hopefully there’s an email somewhere where Ray talks directly to that… if not, I suggest consults with Danny Roddy, Jay Feldman, or Mike Fave.
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@AltarandThrone @CO3 who do you all buy progest-e from?
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@CatlikeLantern Kenogen@gmail.com is the best way. Straight from Katherine, Ray's wife, herself.
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I have also used progest-e on eczema and it cleared it up pretty quickly. Apply a little olive oil to the area first to help dissolve the progest-e, otherwise it's going to wind up being a sticky mess.
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@CO3 thanks so much!
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@Peatriot just messaged Katherine. Thanks for your reply.
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@CatlikeLantern my eczema was really inflamed such that anything I put on it flared it more. However, I think I experienced Topical Steroid Withdrawal (TSW) so would recommend avoiding the cortisone cream as it can lead down a terrible path if you don’t figure out the underlying issue.
This lead me down the path of doing NMT (no moisture treatment) where one leaves the eczema alone (no creams etc) to help the adrenals recover from the excessive exogenous cortisone.
The progesterone/ thyroid should help with inflammation at least. However, there is a concern that if the eczema is from a nutrient deficiency (like vitamin b6 or zinc/copper) - rather than environmental irritation- then this isn’t resolving the cause. Especially around pregnancy, nutrition requirements are highly elevated (especially if one is exclusively breastfeeding) which exacerbates this.
I just started using a tallow with zinc oxide in it which has helped a lot with itch and local inflammation.
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@Buckian if you’re up for experimentation, try applying progest-e around it, but not touching the eczema... following a Ray theory of improving cellular respiration of the local tissues, without causing irritation or excitation, thus leading to eventual healing of the problem. Ray never said this for eczema explicitly, but did say for benign growths like moles or cancers like melanoma, to not let progesterone touch the problem area. I did see some tiny milia cysts on my nose start to grow with topical application, stopped, and with continued oral use, they all disappeared (as well as general skin tone improvement), so there’s something to that.
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@AltarandThrone it makes sense. I agree in theory that it should work/help! I’ll give it a go and see if there’s anything to share.
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@Buckian
Nice bro. hope all goes well -
@CO3 yes, it doesn’t inhibit lactation for my wife. Ray said that if the supply of milk is well established it shouldn’t interfere and that has been her experience as well. I’m about done with twitter. NangaParbat’s account is just about the only thing that interests me anymore on there.
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@CO3 o yea and safe for the baby as well. All milk and butter already has bits of progesterone in it.
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@CatlikeLantern We've tried a bunch of things (a huge amount) and so far we're having surprising success with French Green Clay. The Rainbow brand (very inexpensive) is quite reasonably priced. We notice results after consistently using it for about three days in a row.
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Thank you!
