Fixing my problems
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@Jakeandpace very interested in your log, i share a lot of your previous health issues. though what spiked my interest, is your claim that your maxilla has moved forward? that is quite a feat imo, what do you believe you owe that effect to? diet wise or lifestyle wise. thank you and good luck.
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“also think that the same arguments these low A people make for grant being close to zero can be made for people like Peat, Georgi and Danny Roddy. That argument would be 'how come people like these haven't had any problems while eating copious amounts of VA for years?' in their estimation Peat should have died long ago and Roddy and Georgi should have a myriad of autoimmune issues.
Yet they don't”Agree with most of your post, but this part specifically is not a strong argument.
Roddy is on thyroid hormones, so he is able to metabolise higher doses of VA.
Peat started increasing fiber close to his death, perhaps to make up for VA overload.
And Giorgi, probably not on thyroid, but you can’t be sure his liver is not accumulating VA.VA definitely accumulates in hypothyroid people.
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In regards to the maxilla
I notice a few things tend to move it forward but I think it has something to do with VA and or Steroidogenesis from increasing the dosage from VA. I seem to recall peat saying this in regard to him taking DHEA and it growing his wisdom teeth.
I had a similar experience but instead it was with liver, I had a moderate dose of liver and within the next day I could feel my cheeks become fuller, vision getting better and maxilla moving forward. I also read a thread of someone on Ray peat forum who claimed Perfect vision to be downstream of a forward grown maxilla and although he got mocked I believe it to be true.
Also exercises that tend to be good for posture are probably more important, things like sprinting etc. I have noticed everything improves after sprinting and my jaw rotates to a more neutral position after a session. Functional patternshave probably hit the nail on the head in this regard, just look at their results.
Of course there is mewing but I have tried it for years with minimal results. Jaw is downstream of posture and a functional body.
So yea I think it has something to do with hormone's and perhaps VA as a growth factor as well as applying the correct pressure to the body in order for it to grow correctly.
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I'm not saying VA doesn't accumulate in the hypothyroid. I am saying that people who subscribe to the diet of low vitamin A don't make that distinction, for them it is merely that VA accumulates in everyone without much nuance and that it is only a toxin with no vitamin like properties. To them someone like Danny Roddy should have ungodly amounts of VA to the point of death as they don't take thyroid into account.
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@Jakeandpace carrot salad, mushrooms, bamboo are all fibers that help bind toxic bile. fruits also have some fiber.. you could also include well cooked greens. I dont think a peaty approach lacks fiber.. I‘ve also done the low VA diet for idk maybe 2 weeks.. It was bad. My skin immediately got so dry it was awful, never again.
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been eating mostly vegetarian these past few days feeling actually good. Egg protein always gives me a bad reaction and feels heavily inflammatory. Been cooking meals without meat and getting my protein from milk alone and some from plant foods. Averaging around 70g of protein a day.
I feel great, my hair has lost its brittleness and doesn't sway between being dry and oily. I have been sleeping well. Leg and arm pain I have been getting is no longer present. Only enough My finger nails were starting to look slightly clubbed and I was getting really worried about my vascular health. Now my nails seem to be returning to normal.
My hands and feet are almost always regularly warm.
I saw a thread on RPF on veganism from a peat perspective and I think it brings up a lot of great points on why it could be a good idea. I find it such a pain to balance the proteins in muscle meat all the time and I just feel a constant low grade inflammation from them, maybe I will only eat gelatinous meats now with occasional muscle meat.
Eating a lot of leafy greens, carrots, some lentils, milk, egg yolks, bread and wheat, potatoes, coconut oil and plenty of fruits.
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Especially looking at guys like Clarence Kennedy who managed to hit all of his heaviest lifts while vegan I think I know why it works. If you don't eat a boatload of nuts and do all that weird raw vegan bs then you're just loading up on a boatload of carbs. I saw Clarence say he averages 800g of carbs a day mostly from white rice. The only thing holding him back I'd say is his soy milk and cooking oil (Avocado so not the worst choice considering).
It seems clear to me at least that peats principles are plant based with occasional animal foods to supplement if you even need them.
I have also been thinking about tradition and religion and I am connecting some dots that they seem to outline a trend towards an optimal diet for longevity of not just people but of nations. We may forget scientific reasons as they are always changing but tradition remains as a backbone often times in society and can be the glue by which we as a species maintain good diets lifestyle and community without stagnating to far into destruction. For example catholics usually have a fish Friday according to the bible (weekly selenium, copper, zinc and other trace minerals?) and don't eat meat on a Sunday I think? I could have that wrong but it is all very interesting and coincidental.
Is this the real reason for religion and traditions? who knows but that's just my thoughts and sorry if they're a bit disjointed.
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Ok so I don’t think vegetarianism and or veganism works long term.
My diet today is just sort of looking to be more of balanced diet but like with some slight alterations. This goes back to what I said about traditions in the previous post and actually circles back to a post I made in the philosophy tag about the pyramid of learning and mastering.
When we first learn about nutrition when we are very young we are taught that a balanced diet is best and from there it is a long journey of acquiring different pieces of knowledge and tools until we finally arrive back to where we started however this time we are more informed. It’s poetic really. look at guys like Matt Blackburn who basically just eats a normal diet at this point with added supplements.
You’ve got to really be thinking about your nutrition but also take a step back and thinking about those around you, what allows them to thrive? They’re doing everything wrong! Or are they, they’re eating balanced meals that vary from day to day and aren’t being super autisic about everything. Take a break everyone once in a while and eat what everyone else is, you may glean some insight.
I think a vegan/vegetarian day (no eggs but milk could be acceptable) once or twice a week could be beneficial. I experienced definite benefits that were very pronounced but I couldn’t do it long term, not at least for now while my knowledge of food is fairly limited.
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It’s crazy.
After one slice of commercial bread I already feel the effects of the soy flour and protein they put in it. It’s insane to me that I could only find one bread product that wasn’t contaminated with soy or seeds and even then that product was fortified with iron.
I know a place that I think does safe bread but it never ceases to amaze me just how horribly bad the food supply is.
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In terms of exercise I am now focussing on more playful forms. That being sports. Most sports involve some form of explosive activity rather than endurance.
I’m playing soccer/football and do Muay Thai, although they are quite exhaustive sometimes my appetite has skyrocketed and I feel a lot better not carrying around so much extra musculature in the upper body.
Sports are also good because they integrate you in your local environment. Instead of the deranged sort of Sigma gym goer loner archetype that gets so heavily promoted, performing in a local arena builds bonds and creates a greater sense of purpose.
Brute de force speaks on this, we must have an outlet to perform that earns you accolades. I would consider sport an important and easy outlet that most people have access to. You can exert yourself physically and stylistically as a form of expression.
