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    • MauritioM Offline
      Mauritio
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      This is probably the best post on boron (by Travis) .
      I agree with the hypothesis that arthritis might be of fungal origin and that borons main effect is anti-fungal. Not only that it also protects against fungal toxins like aflatoxin (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0946672X23000032)
      It's wild that Travis took gram -amounts of boron. It is inherently non toxic , apparently less toxic than salt.

      https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/nothing-boring-about-boron.22805/post-451585

      Dare to think.

      My X:
      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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        Lejeboca @Mauritio
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        @Mauritio
        Travis also spoke about boron as a 'natural fluoride's antidote' :

        "This [catechol‐O‐methyltransferase] enzyme can be safely inhibited with epicatechin gallate, found in high concentrations in green tea. However, green tea also has fluoride; this fact would make me add fluoride's natural antidote—boron—to the tea."

        -- https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/caffeine-and-progression-of-parkinson-disease-a-deleterious-interaction-with-creatine.7841/post-301043

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          Lejeboca @b1
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          @b1 said in Boron supplements:

          I cant find any borax supplements unless you mean the cleaning / slime making stuff

          Indeed, to second @noseleather borax 'for cleaning' is good stuff. (modulo 'slime making' probably .lol)

          Anecdotally, I add Borax powder to wash my linens (and light-colored clothes). This is my only 'supplement' with Borax. Idealabs hair tests showed a good load of boron. This was my only change in boron consumption. (I used to and I do eat quite a bit of raisins too.)

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            Alomongerpete @Lejeboca
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            How much borax should I put in to the water when bathing?

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              CrumblingCookie @Mauritio
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              I'm considering a persistent, covert, non-bloodborn fungal tissue colonization.

              Unhelpful critics will scream that there's no such thing and that fungal infections are either superficial or systemic and life-threatening acutely critical with fungemia etc but I've grown intolerant to any such soft-pedalling obfuscation.

              Clearly the bone-degradation dear Travis had written about is a chronic progression.

              @Mauritio said:

              This is probably the best post on boron (by Travis) .
              I agree with the hypothesis that arthritis might be of fungal origin and that borons main effect is anti-fungal. Not only that it also protects against fungal toxins like aflatoxin (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0946672X23000032)
              It's wild that Travis took gram -amounts of boron. It is inherently non toxic , apparently less toxic than salt.

              https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/nothing-boring-about-boron.22805/post-451585

              There are substantiating studies on periprosthetic Candida spp. infections but otherwise it's so wide a field, so overflooded with make-belief narratives and the search functions so poor that I cannot get hold of more tangible findings.
              It's likely that fungal infections can persists below the surface in the enteric tissues and beyond in joints and other organs. And that, irrespective of the actual location, the latter can be harmed in a course of cross-reactive immune response as shown by many other pathogens.

              I've therefore spiked last night's porridge with 2grams of borax with the intention of strong luminal distribution along the GI system.
              And I've started with 5grams of borax per liter for my drinking water today. Of which I've already drunk two thirds. So I may prepare a second liter with the same ratio later on and use this exclusively.
              If there's any notable improvement I shall throw in a course of itraconazole on top.

              I had first dabbled with borax five long years ago. I had noticed that going beyond 20-30mg elemental boron per intake was and remained really uncomfortable. Giving strong headaches. Giving dull joint pains. Eventually, my use has faded because of such much else going on.
              Had been on very intensive and extensive antibiotic regimens recently which also impacted (fingers crossed it stays) the recurring events of night sweats and arthralgia.
              The borax hits me differently now. No particular headaches or joint reactions yet!

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                Mauritio @CrumblingCookie
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                @CrumblingCookie I agree with you on subclinical fungal infections.
                They're very hard to get rid of. I posted a study about fungi hiding in the gallbladder when attacked. Let that sink in.

                Dare to think.

                My X:
                x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                  CrumblingCookie @Mauritio
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                  started with 5grams of borax per liter for my drinking water

                  I did that for about a week but the awful effects were too conflated with others stuff I concurrently did so I cannot distinguish the boron effects. Will need to carefully try again.
                  Anyway I had soon started itraconazole and then switched to fluconazole a week later, enhanced by first oral nystatin and then oral amphotericin B, with the ampho-b appearing to be much more effective than nystatin.
                  Best decision in years! Yet still far from the overall condition being resolved.

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                    sunsunsun @CrumblingCookie
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                    @CrumblingCookie https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3393430/

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                      Mauritio @CrumblingCookie
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                      @CrumblingCookie said in Boron supplements:

                      Best decision in years! Yet still far from the overall condition being resolved.

                      That's a hardcore protocol.
                      What symptoms did you see improvement with ?

                      Dare to think.

                      My X:
                      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                      • engineerE Offline
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                        I have been taking 10mg boron for a couple months and I'm wondering if it's triggering aromatase due to low SHBG and high total T. Any thoughts on if this could actually be the case?

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