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Bowel Movements: Sh*tmaxxing Strategies

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    voldtzeig
    last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 9:41 PM

    Did 2 carrots, 30g coconut oil and 500mg activated charcoal yesterday and had maybe 8-10 burning, watery and horrible bowel movements. Probably cleared most of the nasties out but would not recommend.

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      pillsbury
      last edited by pillsbury Jan 29, 2024, 9:47 PM Jan 29, 2024, 9:46 PM

      I have been tracking every sh*t I took in 2024 to attempt to quantify this.

      image here: https://i.imgur.com/Sp9WG0m.png

      first week: no peat
      weeks 2 and three: carrot salad, cyrpo, huge aspirin doses, and a lot of niccotine

      big change in frequency and quality, but also an increase in mucus/gas-induced mucus, which is concerning. overall, i think peaters are shitting too much, this can't be healthy

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        Skysnek @pillsbury
        last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 9:48 PM

        @pillsbury Incredible idea.

        I think it would be better complimented with additional information on diet, quality of stool (on the Bristol chart) and perhaps level of physical activity. I was traveling in December and despite a suboptimal diet, I walked a lot and that kept my bowels working.

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          pillsbury @Skysnek
          last edited by pillsbury Jan 29, 2024, 9:50 PM Jan 29, 2024, 9:50 PM

          @Skysnek i eat takeout most meals but no seed oils, normally some high protein bowl with vegetables and some carbs. extremely high stress job, lift three times a week, 30mg niccotine per day. bristol 4 or 5

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            salicylicacid22 @Skysnek
            last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 9:51 PM

            @Skysnek
            Cigarettes, coffee avoiding grains and high dose magnesium does the job for me

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              nate @Skysnek
              last edited by nate Jan 29, 2024, 9:57 PM Jan 29, 2024, 9:52 PM

              @Skysnek Magnesium (several forms), cascara, carrot salad, well cooked white button mushrooms, bamboo shoots, psyllium husk, carbonated water, aspirin, coffee, T3, sugar, B1, B3, potassium, vitamin C, vitamin K, pau d'arco, methylene blue, ginger, digestive bitters, rhubarb, senna, aloe vera, wheat bran is my general list of laxatives, along with an overall Peaty diet.

              I also talked about improving digestion here:
              Youtube Video

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                max
                last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 9:56 PM

                Big cascara fan

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                  Coriander
                  last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:00 PM

                  I drink milk often in the morning and I notice it helps with ease of bowel movements. Other common things to improve bowels would be tea/soda/coffee (caffiene in general), orange-type fruit, saturated fat. The last item I note tends to solidify bowels into a more stable consistency.

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                    Fructose @Skysnek
                    last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:01 PM

                    @Skysnek 90/10 Liquid diet.

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                      djledda
                      last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:06 PM

                      I shit like a king if I just avoid irritating my gut and eat a carrot every day. The salad is slightly more useful when SIBO-y. When things are really bad a carrot salad and 2-3g charcoal, spaced evenly throughout the day, keeps things clean enough to keep the bar high enough for irritation so that I don't easily grind everything to a halt with something benign like a little starch for dinner. When things are great a raw carrot a day is all I need to have 2-3 wonderful dumps.

                      When in an absolute pinch aspirin, coffee and a liquid diet for half a day or so work well. Drinking milk to "bowel tolerance" works probably like big doses of magnesium or vitamin C.

                      T3 is a given.

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                        lucasmenem @Skysnek
                        last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:07 PM

                        @Skysnek Walking 10,000 steps has been essential for me to stimulate daily evacuation, i would add it as another basic item

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                          djledda @lucasmenem
                          last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:08 PM

                          @lucasmenem yes just moving around upright regularly helps a lot.

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                            charliebrown @lucasmenem
                            last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:19 PM

                            @lucasmenem do you do this in one session or spread out

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                              lucasmenem @charliebrown
                              last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:26 PM

                              @charliebrown In a session, if you ask about compatibility with productivity, I say that it is excellent, because the best reasoning flourishes, even more so if at least part of it is done barefoot on living soil, and if the sun radiates your chest even more wonderful, the brain comes alive

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                                charliebrown @lucasmenem
                                last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:35 PM

                                @lucasmenem I see, thanks

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                                  DairyMilk
                                  last edited by Jan 29, 2024, 10:40 PM

                                  I find that cellular dehydration is the limiting factor of feeling poopy

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                                    rayjeet
                                    last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 4:39 AM

                                    I have had success with coffee. Also, taking gelatin dissolved in warm water with added salt always makes me shit. Carrot salad only works for me if eaten regularly. White button mushrooms calms my gut.

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                                      Nik
                                      last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 7:42 AM

                                      Psyllium husks are goated. Once you experience the ghost wipe (tp remains clean) it's hard to go back. 2 tablespoons seems to be the sweet spot but it's best to start with one and work your way up. Yet to see a peaty argument against them other than the fact that it's soluble fiber. Psyllium husks + carrots/mushrooms + good exercise routine = 1-3 easy bowel movements a day.

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                                        raypneat @Nik
                                        last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 7:55 AM

                                        @Nik psyillium husks are carcinogenic

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                                          raypneat @Nik
                                          last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 7:59 AM

                                          @Nik oat bran and even some of the semi-synthetic things, Metamucil, agar and psyllium, all have been identified as carcinogens for the intestine and possibly other organs and getting those out quickly before they support bacterial growth

                                          quoted from

                                          Ray Peat John Barkhausen Politics and Science: 1-02-01 Supression of Cancer interview

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