topical ATP supplement helping me regrow hair

wester130

After a bad experience with cardenosine, I began googling for the best ATP supplements to make my own

surprisingly some are anti-Peat like carnitine and NAC

however this is what I came up with

60ml vodka as the solvent
2 grams creatine
2 grams magnesium malate (the malic acid helps ATP by itself)
2 grams NAC, acetyl cysteine
2 grams acetyl carnitine

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/topical-creatine-for-hair.15203/

https://www.hairloss-research.org/carnitine-and-hairloss/

Thoughts? I like it,

basebolt

NAC kills brain cells according to Peat.

inosine is good for atp, it is a component of cardenosine

wester130

@basebolt

I know however I think Cardenosine is badly formulated

Taking ATP directly won't work

and the ingredients he is using are novel and not well known

compare it to these supplements I linked to. you will find a pattern in online supplements that want to boost ATP

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Designs-Health-Mitochondrial-NRG-vcaps/dp/B0050OBTWE

https://nutrilink.co.uk/mitochondrial-cofactors-x-90-caps

https://www.nutriadvanced.co.uk/mitochondrial-resuscitate-60-capsules.html

https://activatedyou.com/cell-advantage/

basebolt

I think the vodka/alcohol in your formulation may have a negative effect.

Have you tried browsing bioenergetic.life to see info related to hair regrowth and atp? Maybe co2 therapy topically would be good. Massages. Low intensity red light (too high can harm).

what is your experience with cardenosine?

look up the talking camel hair protocol. i've seen multiple, like probably a dozen people get ridiculous regrowth on it, even people who were almost at "it's over" levels of bald. it is not peaty at all. the guy who made the protocol has alot of criticisms of ray's work

wester130

@basebolt I think vodka is the best because it is technically food.

ethanol, methanol, rubbing alcohol are chemicals.

wester130

@noodlecat59 can't find the talking camel protocol on google

I thought cardenosine lowered my body temperature and I felt worse

Swanson ATP gave me the same problem

I have seen the best results from Minoxidil/dermastamping dermarolling

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/very-impressive-dermarolling-and-minxodil-results-from-tressless.117746/page-200

obviously don';t use Minoxidil though

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wester130

@noodlecat59 it's jsut supplements and topicals like emu oil

nothing spectacular

people suffer from confirmation bias

he also uses bio estro cream??!!

@wester130 your reply has me so dumbfounded that i deleted the link.

Crypt Keeper

@wester130 said in topical ATP supplement helping me regrow hair:

he also uses bio estro cream??!!

I've used it before. Not sure I noticed anything though.

wester130

@noodlecat59

you linked to a man using spironolactone and bio-estro cream

I doubt anyone would recomend those

@wester130 i dont have anything particularly nice to say in response so i bid you adieu

wester130

here is another supplement to confirm my beliefs about how to raise ATP

https://www.pureencapsulationspro.com/mitochondria-atp-120.html

wester130

@wester130

In response to the man advising to use bio estro cream

I think it works by causing vasodilation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasodilation

There are better ways to increase vasodilation to the scalp