Peating in poverty
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@LetTheRedeemed Hey, no big deal. As a mod I have to be as impartial as possible, it's just how it is. Heck, I didn't even know you're a Texan and I don't really disagree with your point now that you've said it.
Perhaps you could add a bit of Texan when you make such a reply? I have a lot of family in Wisconsin, and they can be polite to a fault, so something they might say in person would be "Hey, invite that guy to the cookout" indicating both hospitality but also that if someone would try to say something, they'd look like a major jackass. It would make your intention clear and might be a bit of fun too.
Thanks for a good response!
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@NotShanalotte haha noted!
Doing a great job btw.
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@LetTheRedeemed Thanks for the kind words! This is probably the first forum I'm actually happy to moderate, but it's still been awhile since I last moderated a forum so you've given me a nice boost.
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Peating in poverty:
Fun idea: small game are traditional food sources for virtually all hunter gatherer societies. Get a sling shot and hunt whatever birds / rabbits are around you. You can clean off the feathers and fur in no time with a scalding water plunge and dowse in wax to then peal off⌠cut out the stomach/intestines and bladder, then throw the whole thing in an oven with potatoes/milk/whatever you can find. lol this would be awesome!
I'd expect synanthropic animals to be quite high in PUFA. Where I live pigeons seem to get fatter, dumber and less capable of flight every year.
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@DonkeyDude haha word.
Maybe just bunniesâŚ
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Lol at this thread. It validates every prejudice I have against poor people. They are usually inferior and unable to gain a skill and live productive caring lives. Also, Germans should never attempt humor.
Another thing a poor person can do is to have a higher-fat diet. If you can get 30% of your calories from coconut oil, then you will be able to save quite a bit of money.
Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.
Ignore, judge, overcommit.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in Peating in poverty:
Lol at this thread. It validates every prejudice I have against poor people. They are usually inferior and unable to gain a skill and live productive caring lives. Also, Germans should never attempt humor.
Another thing a poor person can do is to have a higher-fat diet. If you can get 30% of your calories from coconut oil, then you will be able to save quite a bit of money.
you're uncool
i dont mean that as an insult
but you're just not cool. you're cringe. you will probably think im attacking you or something. but when you are out and about and you see a guy with friends who is well liked and handsome and at ease, you might think to yourself how he got like that. it's because he doesn't think and behave like you. you might be "good looking" but I am 100% positive you aren't handsome. you are "rich" but you aren't elite. you're a pleb with money. -
@LetTheRedeemed the amish and mennonites and farmers would probably feed someone who asked. try asking the store manager of the corporate grocery store to front you a sandwich until you get paid the next day and let me know how it goes.
im an ardent hyper-capitalist and even i know know stealing food is morally ok in corporate society. i presume we are talking about getting food from aldi's here and not the local amish. if the local council bans backyard chickens or would prosecute you for having a milking cow, then stealing from the grocery store is even more acceptable.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in Peating in poverty:
The world is becoming ever more capitalistic and uncertain.
In a few ways I appreciate your exhibitions Norway. However.
@Norwegian-Mugabe said in Peating in poverty:
poor people. They are usually inferior and unable to gain a skill and live productive caring lives.
You're advised against projection in scripture for a reason. Introspect to arrest or go broke. And stick around, wealth for another can be made of either.
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The real question here is: Why aren't your parents working over the summer if they are broke?
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@Kilgore They are poor because they deserve to be poor. They live in a free market and complain about the lack of handouts. Almost all poor people are the same.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe youâre Norwegian, right? Hasnât Norway had a universal basic income for several generations now? Do you think that could skew your perception of how hard it can be to overcome the psychological obstacles adjacent to poverty?
I have family from the âgreat generationâ who worked harder than anyone I know, would never take a handout, and some climbed ladders out of the hard labor industries into prestigious office and institution, some worked hard their whole life participating in construction of iconic parts of America, but died in relative poverty only because they only understood hard work, and not the principles of management and multiplication. All good church going family people.
I understand choice and consequence, but I think charitably to the psychological state of people in a cycle of poverty, to be good and beneficial to the bearer and recipient.
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@noodlecat59 said in Peating in poverty:
@LetTheRedeemed the amish and mennonites and farmers would probably feed someone who asked. try asking the store manager of the corporate grocery store to front you a sandwich until you get paid the next day and let me know how it goes.
I actually suggested in my first comment that he reach out to small businesses/farms for help/food. I donât disagree that a corporate store probably wonât help (even at that, the dominos I used to work for wasnât beyond giving extra pizza when we had it, if the hard luck story was convincing).
im an ardent hyper-capitalist
Ah maybe thereâs your error
and even i know know stealing food is morally ok in corporate society. i presume we are talking about getting food from aldi's here and not the local amish. if the local council bans backyard chickens or would prosecute you for having a milking cow, then stealing from the grocery store is even more acceptable.
I didnât address it when ThinPicking corrected me on the capitalism/corporatism distinction, but I will here.
After years of my defending the Austrian economic arguments for capitalism, and likewise distinguishing corporatism from a capitalist society with rules for fair play in business, I found a few errors.
The etymological definition of capitalism, is merely the supremacy of capital accumulation; it is not "may the most efficient and wisest outcome of resource allocation win". In fact, it was used as an insult by reactionary conservatives in the 1800s for that very reason.
âCorporatismâ is intended to demarcate âfairâ capitalism from ârule breakingâ capitalism.
Fundamentally, they both undermine social orders for the virtues of arbitrage, so both end up ordaining wealth accumulation above other values - corporatism is just the capitalist formalizing the power he stole from traditional or indigenous hierarchical structures.
Theft is more efficient than honesty. One hundred years of Capitalism convincing us that our selfish ambition is a more valuable social structure than other virtues (sanctity, family, duty, etc) tells Nietzsche's âlast manâ that he should probably steal that cheap item because the punishment is low and the purported victim indifferent and unaffected.
Again, the actual victims of petty theft is as much the social fabric of society, as the business owner with insurance and who perpetually increases prices (ultimately making a third victim - the noble poor).
Sorry OP for participating in turning your post into a twatter fever dream lol
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Sources and history to one side for a muse.
That a corporation is a legal person (payout in litigation) with limited liability (payout in backruptcy) is bound to create some (very interesting) behavioural distortions with compounding effects. An illicit house party if you will. Love em.
Pulling the rug on that would be a complete disaster. But a little over a certain revenue. Seems sane. Maybe worth a chat. What would I know. Armchair economics.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in Peating in poverty:
Another thing a poor person can do is to have a higher-fat diet
You're such an irredeemably stupid faggot.
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Peating in poverty:
@CO3
Iâll recommence this conversation in person. Iâm in DFW, Texas. Let me know when youâre here.The war cry - cluck, rather - of a true coward. "come at me irl bro"
how about you come at me ONLINE
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@CO3, A bit of power outage, firewood chopping, and a coming of age across-the-nation road trip with an old school widower whoâs crusty around the edges and has a begrudging soft spot for rambunctious inner city youth, would do you good
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If you're going to shoplift I think you should at least do it with a sense of confidence and/or disregard for society and individuals, trying to justify all your actions from a moral lens just makes you seem insecure (not accusing anyone in particular of that). You're already committing a legal crime, just own up to it. "N-no, I am ENTITLED to this thing, you see! Society owes me this!" not a dignified way of standing up for yourself.
On a different note I used to think petty thievery was the "good" type of theft, because who cares about a bag of doritos? But after dwelling on it a bit I realized it was the more daring and intelligence-gated acts of theft that merit some admiration, and display a certain exertion of will over the world. Petty thievery just makes you seem, well, petty. Like a homeless loser who doesn't have anything better to do than to pilfer sloppily.
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@Tahodama said in Peating in poverty:
f you're going to shoplift I think you should at least do it with a sense of confidence and/or disregard for society and individuals, trying to justify all your actions from a moral lens just makes you seem insecure (not accusing anyone in particular of that). You're already committing a legal crime, just own up to it. "N-no, I am ENTITLED to this thing, you see! Society owes me this!" not a dignified way of standing up for yourself.
See the thing is I neither do it out of a deep moral conviction nor a disregard for society. I just think "ohh that would be fun if I didn't have to pay for that, and the corporation that sells it can go fuck themselves".
It's cool because I can judge how well my metabolism is doing by how ready I am to shoplift. I will not dare to when I'm in a bad state but when I'm doing good the thought enters my mind and it's like I have to do it.
Both paragraphs above are part of a novel I wrote called "God, Masculinity, and Why Target is a Great American Institution: My Dark Journey Into the Evil World of Shoplifting"
