A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.
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Who knows what his DHT levels are and the levels of other androgens. He mentioned not being able to grow much facial hair. People in this thread are talking about his voice being high pitch, which I think is a sign of low DHT. I don't think testosterone itself masculinizes the voice, though of course in a healthy body, would convert into DHT. I think a simple explanation is that he has high testosterone levels that aren't being converted into high levels of DHT.
A lot of people's idea of steroid hyper masculinity is not going to be caused by just high testosterone alone. Masculine sharp strong bone structure, a deep voice, facial hair, are things I'd correlate with high DHT, which can rise when injecting test.●○ ANTI-SOL BRAH ● ANTI-TRAD WIFE ○●
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I've looked on subreddits for people transitioning and they always go for the one hormone approach. Some FTM use topical DHT for masculinization, specifically growing clit size and more facial hair, but others appear to be scared of DHT because of hair loss, so they take DHT blockers with their testosterone, which of course isn't going to give them full biological male masculinization as men during puberty aren't on DHT blockers.
On the topic of FTM, obviously they're going to have to be very heavy duty to turn a woman into a passable "man", so basically they need to take roid head levels of testosterone and DHT, or else they're just going to look like a really low T feminine man, not like Henry Cavill or Chris Hemsworth. Of course there's concerns with safety dosing biological women with high levels of T and DHT, but this just means that biological women are going to transform into undesirable soy boys, not anything close to the pinnacle of masculinity.
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@Sugar I figured a lack of DHT could explain StyroPyro's higher pitched voice. I wish he gave some info on DHT blood levels but I bet those doctors weren't smart enough to check. But even if he had decent DHT, it could be bound up by his very high SHBG. Now you get into a tricky case of what tissues can use SHBG-bound hormone and which ones can't? And which tissues create DHT locally w/ 5AR and which ones depend on systemic hormone delivered by the blood? Etc... He has good masculine facial structure, but so do I and I also have high T and low free DHT (due to high SHBG). But he also has a good frame.
As for FTM... Some of the women bodybuilders / strength athletes who take all that gear have a comparable amount of size and strength (for their frame) to men, but for sure FTM aren't going for that look, so they're in a weird spot like you say. And those women bodybuilders don't have masculine faces or frames. If FTM got on those bodybuilder protocols at the age of like, 8, then maybe they could pass for a man. This is all disgusting btw.
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@Crypt-Keeper True. I'm not trying to advocate for the "right way" to be transgender, it's just interesting what point they get themselves to, which is of course the point of the soy boy, and if a biological male soy boy changed his diet and hopped on steroids, he'd get himself much closer to a masculine man.
Honestly I'm dying to see someone Peat and roid at the same time. Lots of roidcels just eat chicken and rice when they could be drinking raw milk, eating cheese, pasture raised eggs, grass fed beef, etc. with better results.
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@noodlecat59 said in A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.:
1.) i am referring to an identity which i am fairly projecting onto you where the culture you a part of that thinks autism is based. this is a fair projection from my perspective because of the stuff you post.
2.) xD
3.)IQ is a cope, a top tier cope.- I have never stated that autism is based. Autism is a disorder. Show me any evidence that I think autism is a positive. I value intellect, but I clearly do not sing the praises of disorders. Your argument is debased.
- You lost the argument.
- You confirm again that you do not understand the word cope. Furthermore, IQ is validated and of great value. No one here is arguing that IQ is everything, but it holds a high degree of value.
StyroPyro looks healthier than most 31 year olds in our society by a long shot.
There is no "right way" to be transgender. I am confident that more sexual dimorphism would end most of the confusion for people who are confused about their gender. Males who think they are fEEmales do not need T-blocks, but rather a healthy dose of T. Women who think they are males, need less stress and a higher consumption of the fat-soluble vitamins.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.:
He is effeminate, but that is normal in men with extraordinarily high IQs. I think if you are above a certain threshold in intelligence, you will fail to bond with your peers which will have certain consequences. This was the case with the one guy who beat me on the Abel test (math test) at our high school. He looked and behaved very much like this guy. He still comes across as extremely healthy although he might have some developmental deviance due to childhood loneliness. Just look at the energy levels, the bone structure, the body composition, and the varied interests.
If an "extraordinarily" high IQ is associated in the majority of cases with being effeminate, then it's not extraordinary and optimal in terms of health, because being effeminate is not.
You're not specific about what you mean by intelligence, so no, overall high intelligence beyond a certain threshold doesn't necessary limit relationships, and it can improve them.
"Energy" level is positive if it's also associated with good relaxation during the day and during sleep, otherwise it's overexcitement and that's a symptom
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@Norwegian-Mugabe You can have all the testosterone in the world, but if it cannot convert into DHT it's mostly useless. His body is probably incapable of incapable of doing the conversion, thus he looks like a boy.
There was this ginger who was 27 and still hasn't hit puberty. In the end they gave him testosterone but it didnt work because his body doesn't produce the 5AR enzymes that converts T into DHT. They should have given him DHT.
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@Kilgore said in A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.:
@Norwegian-Mugabe You can have all the testosterone in the world, but if it cannot convert into DHT it's mostly useless. His body is probably incapable of incapable of doing the conversion, thus he looks like a boy.
There was this ginger who was 27 and still hasn't hit puberty. In the end they gave him testosterone but it didnt work because his body doesn't produce the 5AR enzymes that converts T into DHT. They should have given him DHT.
What do you mean it didn't work?
Did it work afterwards?
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@Kilgore I agree regarding the importance of T-conversion to DHT. Yet, Spyropyro looks healthy and beautiful, while that ginger fuck is as ugly as a pumpkin spiked by a roof collapse.
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@noodlecat59 said in A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.:
@Norwegian-Mugabe being able to bond with peers is a sign of high intelligence. being unable to bond with peers is autism.
A ~11-minute video about intelligence, socialization, and communication:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8uWAEnlCl4In short and in relation to your reply:
People with very high IQs can find it difficult to form meaningful relationships because they perceive the world very differently from people with an average IQ. They also won't be able to freely communicate their ideas and perceptions because people with an average IQ often would not be able to keep up with it.I recommend watching the whole video for more details and a better understanding of the subject
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@NoeticJuice So true. This is how I feel without alcohol to dumb me down lol. Most of the time I'm fine with being high IQ and energized around the right friends, but around certain people I'm better off drunk and stupider.
