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      Excellent thread title. I lol. Thank you

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          Still, maybe there's a pathology linking both of these things. And they're just buying time and/or stability either way. So why not balance them if there's any truth in it. He might lighten up a bit with a spoon full of... glucose.

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              lol

              Beside the lol. A stark illustration of ego, in the absence of heart and humour. Perhaps.

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                Lmao

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                  Starch based diet side effects.

                  I suggest some vitamin A and fructose rich watermelon for Mr Smith.

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                      I would ignore this bush fight. Nothing to see here. Go watch some reruns.

                      Just another dialectic to distract us from reading and learning something else.

                      Leave the viewershio of Fentanyl-doped to listen and be fascinated and to buy some merchandise off the online store.

                      Oh, and don't ask "What's in it for Garrett?He is as plainspoken and pickling' honest as a southern peanut farmer. "

                      Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                          3 plus hours?

                          How unwell.
                          How self serving.

                          Not only is his clinical reasoning wrong again (allegedly- I have no time for such pathology)
                          But
                          This speaks to me how fragile he is emotionally and spiritually

                          Stating your case on such a subject should take three minutes max
                          State facts
                          Move on

                          Consuming such vitriol doesn’t point to wellness either imo….

                          One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                          -DB

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                              @Insomniac said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                              But it's very strange to me that nobody is discussing his claim that Dr. Stephens is fabricating a success rate for his treatment and then charging people $1000 to make it work but instead they're poking holes in Garrett's list of pubmed studies like it matters.

                              Look harder. It’s been discussed.

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                                @Jaffe said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                                Look harder. It’s been discussed.

                                I just read through the thread for this video and there is no comment on this. They're debating Garrett's research dump

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                                  @Insomniac said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                                  @Jaffe said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                                  Look harder. It’s been discussed.

                                  I just read through the thread for this video and there is not yet a comment on this.

                                  There’s like 40 threads on dextrose since the Thor Torrens interview, so comments are scattered all over the place.

                                  The success rate has to do with people working directly with him. IIRC, “success” is being measured by a questionnaire dealing with mental symptoms. It’s explained in one of his presentations.

                                  As for the price, understand he treats patients with what they can afford to pay. The $1000 is a recently increased price to help cover some of the costs the less fortunate can’t meet him at. So for example if you’re financially struggling and go to him complaining about lack of energy, helplessness, and experience suicidal thoughts, he won’t turn you away. Chalk it up to his religious devotion.

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                                      @Insomniac said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                                      @Jaffe That's fine. When someone finds the exchange we can correct the record but it has to be after this time point. Eventually they will have a discussion about it at the rpf and it's hard to believe they haven't but it's something that can happen in a censored environment.

                                      If Stephens isn't credible than nothing he says has any meaning. Garrett says the doctor's a liar but the liar says he is not lying.

                                      The reason this is very important is because people are doing the protocol completely based off this mans claims. God gave him the idea and he witnessed it work. His credibility is foundational.

                                      If Garrett is defaming the guy then he should be punished. He's attacking the man's reputation and income. And actually Stephens would be the hero of the story if it's all true which would make it even worse. Garrett would be the villain protecting his interests instead of helping to heal the world.

                                      You are giving too much credit to the kind Stephens.

                                      Just because it was posted on the rpf recently
                                      Doesn’t mean this is a new concept

                                      As I said in another thread
                                      This is one of the (three) foundations to Peats work

                                      Not to mention
                                      Peripheral IVs of glucose is standard treatment for the critically ill in the ER

                                      This is old news that has been driven out by the indoctrination of the medical complex and the health gurus

                                      Sugar was used to pack wounds in the war
                                      What Stephens says (im assuming; I haven’t listened past ten minutes) is more based than Smith’s IMO; but nothing new to see here

                                      And I do not agree with protocols of pills or tablets
                                      But Stephens comes from that milieu
                                      So that’s his bend

                                      One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                      -DB

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                                          @Insomniac said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                                          @Peatful Why do you suppose Dr. Peat didn't discover the magical healing powers of pure dextrose powder? Hasn't it been in use experimentally for nearly 100 years? How could he have missed it? The biochemist missed it completely but the psychologist figured it out in his sleep.

                                          For the last few decades Ray Peat has been telling people to eat real food and to prefer fruit over sugar and I have no doubt that RP would not! recommend anyone drink pure dextrose water for 6 months. He would say have some juice and more recently he would probably say lower your fat and protein.

                                          Yes, I understand your questions
                                          And agree with questioning drinking dextrose water over six months
                                          But without listening myself to Stephens I have no context

                                          I’m driving into work and this is voice recognition

                                          I will be brief and/or cryptic

                                          Peat was a sucrose guy, a sugar guy, a food guy
                                          Simple and accessible to people
                                          Example: putting 2 tablespoons of sugar in milk
                                          Example: eating a pound of sugar over three days to “heal” the liver and thyroid
                                          (I posted this clip in another thread)

                                          Despite all the supplement pushing on the forum and by allopathic and naturopathic medicines
                                          Peat was very judicious with his use of supplements

                                          One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                          -DB

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                                            Two quick things I want to add

                                            Stephens is a psychologist. Therefore his lens is brain health.
                                            Pete’s lens was metabolic health, cellular respiration, mitochondrial respiration
                                            Pete looked bio energetically

                                            On Charlie’s forum, my Signature used to say:
                                            Apart from a good metabolism, anything can be dangerous

                                            That is relevant, whether talking about dextrose pills or adding therapeutic amounts sugar in the diet

                                            Pete was not wrong

                                            This is been voice to text

                                            One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                            -DB

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