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    • RazvanR
      Razvan @Insomniac
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      Starch based diet side effects.

      I suggest some vitamin A and fructose rich watermelon for Mr Smith.

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          I would ignore this bush fight. Nothing to see here. Go watch some reruns.

          Just another dialectic to distract us from reading and learning something else.

          Leave the viewershio of Fentanyl-doped to listen and be fascinated and to buy some merchandise off the online store.

          Oh, and don't ask "What's in it for Garrett?He is as plainspoken and pickling' honest as a southern peanut farmer. "

          Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
          engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
          wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
          the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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              Peatful
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              3 plus hours?

              How unwell.
              How self serving.

              Not only is his clinical reasoning wrong again (allegedly- I have no time for such pathology)
              But
              This speaks to me how fragile he is emotionally and spiritually

              Stating your case on such a subject should take three minutes max
              State facts
              Move on

              Consuming such vitriol doesn’t point to wellness either imo….

              The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

              SD

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                  Jaffe @Insomniac
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                  @Insomniac said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                  But it's very strange to me that nobody is discussing his claim that Dr. Stephens is fabricating a success rate for his treatment and then charging people $1000 to make it work but instead they're poking holes in Garrett's list of pubmed studies like it matters.

                  Look harder. It’s been discussed.

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                    @Jaffe said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                    Look harder. It’s been discussed.

                    I just read through the thread for this video and there is no comment on this. They're debating Garrett's research dump

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                      Jaffe @Insomniac
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                      @Insomniac said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                      @Jaffe said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                      Look harder. It’s been discussed.

                      I just read through the thread for this video and there is not yet a comment on this.

                      There’s like 40 threads on dextrose since the Thor Torrens interview, so comments are scattered all over the place.

                      The success rate has to do with people working directly with him. IIRC, “success” is being measured by a questionnaire dealing with mental symptoms. It’s explained in one of his presentations.

                      As for the price, understand he treats patients with what they can afford to pay. The $1000 is a recently increased price to help cover some of the costs the less fortunate can’t meet him at. So for example if you’re financially struggling and go to him complaining about lack of energy, helplessness, and experience suicidal thoughts, he won’t turn you away. Chalk it up to his religious devotion.

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                          Peatful @Insomniac
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                          @Insomniac said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                          @Jaffe That's fine. When someone finds the exchange we can correct the record but it has to be after this time point. Eventually they will have a discussion about it at the rpf and it's hard to believe they haven't but it's something that can happen in a censored environment.

                          If Stephens isn't credible than nothing he says has any meaning. Garrett says the doctor's a liar but the liar says he is not lying.

                          The reason this is very important is because people are doing the protocol completely based off this mans claims. God gave him the idea and he witnessed it work. His credibility is foundational.

                          If Garrett is defaming the guy then he should be punished. He's attacking the man's reputation and income. And actually Stephens would be the hero of the story if it's all true which would make it even worse. Garrett would be the villain protecting his interests instead of helping to heal the world.

                          You are giving too much credit to the kind Stephens.

                          Just because it was posted on the rpf recently
                          Doesn’t mean this is a new concept

                          As I said in another thread
                          This is one of the (three) foundations to Peats work

                          Not to mention
                          Peripheral IVs of glucose is standard treatment for the critically ill in the ER

                          This is old news that has been driven out by the indoctrination of the medical complex and the health gurus

                          Sugar was used to pack wounds in the war
                          What Stephens says (im assuming; I haven’t listened past ten minutes) is more based than Smith’s IMO; but nothing new to see here

                          And I do not agree with protocols of pills or tablets
                          But Stephens comes from that milieu
                          So that’s his bend

                          The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                          SD

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                              Peatful @Insomniac
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                              @Insomniac said in Anti vitamin A Garrett Smith launches a JIHAD! against glucose God Dr. David Stephens:

                              @Peatful Why do you suppose Dr. Peat didn't discover the magical healing powers of pure dextrose powder? Hasn't it been in use experimentally for nearly 100 years? How could he have missed it? The biochemist missed it completely but the psychologist figured it out in his sleep.

                              For the last few decades Ray Peat has been telling people to eat real food and to prefer fruit over sugar and I have no doubt that RP would not! recommend anyone drink pure dextrose water for 6 months. He would say have some juice and more recently he would probably say lower your fat and protein.

                              Yes, I understand your questions
                              And agree with questioning drinking dextrose water over six months
                              But without listening myself to Stephens I have no context

                              I’m driving into work and this is voice recognition

                              I will be brief and/or cryptic

                              Peat was a sucrose guy, a sugar guy, a food guy
                              Simple and accessible to people
                              Example: putting 2 tablespoons of sugar in milk
                              Example: eating a pound of sugar over three days to “heal” the liver and thyroid
                              (I posted this clip in another thread)

                              Despite all the supplement pushing on the forum and by allopathic and naturopathic medicines
                              Peat was very judicious with his use of supplements

                              The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                              SD

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                                Peatful
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                                Two quick things I want to add

                                Stephens is a psychologist. Therefore his lens is brain health.
                                Pete’s lens was metabolic health, cellular respiration, mitochondrial respiration
                                Pete looked bio energetically

                                On Charlie’s forum, my Signature used to say:
                                Apart from a good metabolism, anything can be dangerous

                                That is relevant, whether talking about dextrose pills or adding therapeutic amounts sugar in the diet

                                Pete was not wrong

                                This is been voice to text

                                The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                SD

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                                  evan.hinkle
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                                  As someone currently experimenting with dextrose I can only say this:

                                  I trust no one except the friends and family I know well. I do not trust my health with Ray Peat, Garrett Smith, nor Dr Stephens. I like to try things that make fundamental sense to me. I am responsible for myself. I’ve made plenty of bad decisions in my life, heck I’m sure I’ll make more: that’s life.

                                  Perhaps we could all just relax and trust in each other’s autonomy? Debate is great, disagreement should be expected, we all have a unique point of view.

                                  No one is asking anyone to try anything you don’t want to. You are in charge of your life. I for one wouldn’t have it any other way. I like sharing what I’m trying with a community of somewhat like minded folks, but honestly if it causes this much consternation, I’ll probably just pass.

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                                      Oh, and don't ask "What's in it for Garrett?He is as plainspoken and pickling' honest as a southern peanut farmer. "

                                      Lol I want to know what this colloquialism means... not a reference to Carter, is it?

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                                        yerrag @LetTheRedeemed
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                                        yes, though I should have used Midwestern teenage boy scout instead lol, with due respect to Carter

                                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                          LetTheRedeemed @yerrag
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                                          @yerrag lol

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                                            Peatful
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                                            Michell777

                                            Based as ****

                                            https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/dr-garrett-smiths-live-stream-destroying-the-glucose-dextrose-powder-fad.53127/page-2

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                                            I went over there because I read that Smith and Charlie are no longer working together?

                                            I was trying to find that data.

                                            I was unsuccessful

                                            Anyone?

                                            @Mulloch94

                                            The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                            SD

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