DHT powder dissolve

pannacottas

@wester130 No worries, like i said i dont like gatekeeping anyways. The more people try dht the better imo

jamezb46

I'm going to try to dissolve testosterone powder in a 10% solution of the same Cliganic product. I'll start with a 5% solution and if that holds, then I guess I'll decide at that point to either go for it or not.

There are a number of factors at play. For one, I'm not sure if I was ripped off by PPL. They might have given me Test A or test P.

But, there should be a way to make this happen. IdeaLabs can make upwards of 4mg of steroids per drop in Cortinon, so we know it's possible. Maybe it's the SFA/OA that makes the difference.

The only thing I worry about is that if I want to run the testosterone in vitamin E at say 25 mg/day, I don't want to run into issues with toxicity of vitamin E, so getting a 10% solution is kind of important.

pannacottas

@jamezb46
It should definitely be possible. Someone on r/raypeat shared a method for dissolving dht in vitamin e, he achieved 10% concentration and he didn't even use 100% vitamin e, it was around 70% diluted with sunflower oil. I think he put a beaker with vitamin e in the microwave until it was too hot to touch, then he put the powder in, and then again in the microwave. Haven't gotten around to trying it yet since im perfecting my ethanol solution atm.

That could be the case, on mesorx or some other forum in the past, it was said that PPL's dht was dht acetate.

Well P4 and DHEA are more easily soluble i think. 4mg per drop means 80mg/ml, if a drop is 0.05ml, which is high but not super high.

Why are you worried about vitamin e? Im the opposite, the more i can take the better (up to a point but it's already hard to take enough). Only thing i would keep in mind is to take it seperately from vitamin k, like i already do with progest-e.

NokiaDrift

@pannacottas
with taking it seperately you mean timing wise? like progest-E in the evening and vitamin k in the morning or is it enough if i take progest E transdermally and Vitamin K orally?

pannacottas

@NokiaDrift
Yes timing wise. Vitamin E can potentially deplete vitamin K, and they likely share the same pathways for metabolism and excretion (so probably depletion can be in either direction but K hasn't been shown to deplete E). But this is in regards to high doses, not the ones found in estroban for example.

Also, Ray has said that when vitamin E and quinones are mixed together they produce a black pigment. I read somewhere (maybe by haidut?) that this is an unfavourable redox reaction but Ray did not at any point say the reaction is problematic. I was under the impression that you shouldn't take E&K together because of that reaction but after researching it, turns out this is not a concern at all.

So just take E or supplements dissolved in E a few hours before or after K, if taking large doses, like maybe >200IU E and >5mg K2. Otherwise you can take them together.

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