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    A Former User
    last edited by Aug 18, 2024, 8:13 PM

    Please share some of your recommended reading material. Adjacent sources are welcome. How can I best optimize my metabolism? Thank you.

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      LucH @A Former User
      last edited by Aug 18, 2024, 9:06 PM

      @rosy-fingered said in Where do I begin?:

      Please share some of your recommended reading material

      Hi,
      Here is a starting point. Some points could asked a development when you search for details or other sources to justify / explain one point out of current standpoint.
      *) “How to Heal Your Metabolism - Stop Blaming Aging for your Slowing Metabolism!”
      Kate Deering .
      This book is based on the work of Dr. Ray Peat, Dr. Gilbert Ling, Dr Albert Szent-Györgyi, Dr. Broda Barnes, Dr Constance Martin, Dr. Hans Selfe, Dr. Uffe Ravnskov, Dr Lita Lee, Chris Masterjohn, and Josh Rubin.
      "How to cure your metabolism" will give you a completely different perspective on what food, supplements and exercise are really. Are they "healthy" for you, when and what intensity, and what are those who can harm you.
      This book is based on Kate Deering's experience. Kate Deering is a physiologist (physical exercise), a personal trainer, a nutrition coach and for lifestyle, but is not a doctor.
      Editor's note (LucH): it is reliable. Even if we do not have to agree on everything ... We must also put questions about our context ... As already specified, she is a fan of Ray Peat (RP), reread and confirmed by RP, but she has a "practical" approach, given her profile. It is therefore a very good book for the reader who needs a concrete scheme, a framework. If I caricature, it transposes the foundations / the theory defended by Ray Peat, and some others, in a practical approach. She puts the points on the I, with her sensitivity (coaching experience and her life-experience) and draws attention to the context. It is an interesting book to get to know the basics of body physiology and connection with food, in a given context (hypo or normal).
      Note: I’ve a summary on my forum (In French; translator needed)
      http://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1347-comment-guerir-votre-metabolisme#15017
      Comment guérir votre métabolisme

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        A Former User @LucH
        last edited by A Former User Aug 18, 2024, 10:32 PM Aug 18, 2024, 10:15 PM

        Thank you so much. I first developed a case of chronic pitting edema in my legs over ten years ago. I saw a handful of specialists yet none of them could produce a conclusive opinion. The edema is currently under control but I've been diagnosed with venous stasis. I assume the initial inflammation resulted from PUFA consumption during my early teen years. The naturopathist I saw believed it was a renal or lymphatic issue.

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          psi @A Former User
          last edited by Aug 18, 2024, 10:18 PM

          @rosy-fingered instead of reading, set smaller concrete goals to change your environment where your diet is optimal, you're surrounded by friends, there are things to do and explore. Then do reading to learn the necessary info.

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            A Former User @psi
            last edited by Aug 18, 2024, 10:22 PM

            @psi
            I've joined a volunteer organization and intend to visit the mountains/beaches once my foot heals. I don't have friends. Never have. I'm fairly antisocial (ScPD). Not that the diagnosis has much utility at this point. It's effectively useless to me.

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              psi @A Former User
              last edited by Aug 18, 2024, 10:34 PM

              @rosy-fingered hmm, take a look at Broda Barnes and do the basal temperature test and test your muscle relaxation time. Then decide if it's worth taking desiccated thyroid. Ray often recommends progesterone, but it's only if you have estrogen excess. Vitamin E helps with PUFA already accumulated.

              I bet your diagnosis is a reaction to the poisoned world. Or perhaps you have very high standards for humans. That's noble. But it's also important to accept other humans flaws to a degree. Necessary evil because it's very difficult to do anything of value by yourself

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                A Former User @psi
                last edited by Aug 18, 2024, 10:55 PM

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                  A Former User @psi
                  last edited by A Former User Aug 18, 2024, 11:30 PM Aug 18, 2024, 11:30 PM

                  @psi
                  @psi said in Where do I begin?:

                  test your muscle relaxation time

                  How? Where can I read up on this?

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                    psi @A Former User
                    last edited by Aug 18, 2024, 11:53 PM

                    @rosy-fingered https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BAPlv62-ZZI

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                      A Former User @psi
                      last edited by Aug 19, 2024, 12:01 AM

                      @psi
                      Thanks.

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                        A Former User @psi
                        last edited by Aug 19, 2024, 10:18 AM

                        @psi said in Where do I begin?:

                        I bet your diagnosis is a reaction to the poisoned world.

                        Most probably. I seem incapable of taking forward action in any direction.

                        @psi said in Where do I begin?:

                        Or perhaps you have very high standards for humans.

                        I should set higher standards for myself.

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                          cs3000 @A Former User
                          last edited by cs3000 Aug 19, 2024, 11:44 AM Aug 19, 2024, 11:00 AM

                          @rosy-fingered while youre fixing hypothyroidism & metabolism you might do well with co2 leg baths, you just buy some baking soda and malic acid powder (found in apples), add at least 5g of both to a container big enough to cover your shins for every 1L of water, which combines & releases co2 bubbles.

                          the co2 goes into your skin increases blood flow and promotes vein formation & healing

                          20-30 minutes daily might help with improvement starting to show by 1 - 2 weeks

                          https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/01.CIR.0000159329.40098.66
                          45998f0f-d9c8-46dc-888a-16a451e80196-image.png

                          also
                          https://www.youtube.com/@RayPeatClips/videos
                          &
                          https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/4/ray-peat-resource-thread

                          "world," as a source of new perceptions
                          more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                          "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                            A Former User @cs3000
                            last edited by Aug 19, 2024, 11:33 AM

                            @cs3000
                            Excellent! Thank you very much.

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                              yerrag @cs3000
                              last edited by Aug 19, 2024, 12:03 PM

                              @cs3000

                              Nice find on the baking soda malic acid thingy.

                              Funny using CO2 to activate a nitric oxide-cGMP progenitor cell though but hey. Why need NO when you have CO2 as a vasodilator already, right?

                              Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                              engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                              wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                              the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                psi @A Former User
                                last edited by Aug 19, 2024, 11:25 PM

                                @rosy-fingered

                                Most probably. I seem incapable of taking forward action in any direction.

                                Could be a side effect of low metabolism. I feel less lethargic and apathetic after further minimizing PUFA. Maybe it's just placebo though

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                                  A Former User @psi
                                  last edited by A Former User Aug 20, 2024, 12:13 AM Aug 19, 2024, 11:58 PM

                                  @psi said in Where do I begin?:

                                  Could be a side effect of low metabolism.

                                  I'll be trying out coconut oil in the morning very soon.

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                                    psi @A Former User
                                    last edited by Aug 20, 2024, 12:14 AM

                                    @rosy-fingered coconut oil gave me diarrhea if I ate more than 3 spoonfuls with nothing else.

                                    I'd avoid pastry, because they're full of corn starch too. #1 PUFA source is fried chicken, #2 is cakes and similar deserts. Half life of PUFA in the body is 2 years, so why risk putting even a spoon a day in?

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                                      A Former User @psi
                                      last edited by Aug 20, 2024, 12:18 AM

                                      @psi said in Where do I begin?:

                                      coconut oil gave me diarrhea if I ate more than 3 spoonfuls with nothing else.

                                      I want to start out with a teaspoon of it and eventually ease myself into a full tablespoon.

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                                        yerrag @psi
                                        last edited by Aug 20, 2024, 1:33 AM

                                        @psi said in Where do I begin?:

                                        @rosy-fingered coconut oil gave me diarrhea if I ate more than 3 spoonfuls with nothing else.

                                        I'd avoid pastry, because they're full of corn starch too. #1 PUFA source is fried chicken, #2 is cakes and similar deserts. Half life of PUFA in the body is 2 years, so why risk putting even a spoon a day in?

                                        Probably at that much in one shot, some don't get absorbed through the small intestine and goes to the colon, and being anti-microbial, it kills microbes and the endotoxin it leaves behind renders the gut liquid contaminated enough for the gut walls to reject absorbing back into blood. More liquid in the gut is what amounts to diarrhea.

                                        But I take diarrhea as a good sign when I take biofilm busters and/or antimicrobials.

                                        I use activated charcoal to absorb the endotoxins and the diarrhea goes away.

                                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                          psi @yerrag
                                          last edited by Aug 20, 2024, 2:16 AM

                                          @yerrag is there endotoxin if I don't eat any starch? Main reason for me not eating coconut oil is lack of a convenient meal I can make with it.

                                          Activated charcoal absorbs minerals too. I'd be cautious to use it frequently. I'm trying eating carrots, seems to work well.

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