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      A Former User @psi
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      @psi
      Thanks.

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        A Former User @psi
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        @psi said in Where do I begin?:

        I bet your diagnosis is a reaction to the poisoned world.

        Most probably. I seem incapable of taking forward action in any direction.

        @psi said in Where do I begin?:

        Or perhaps you have very high standards for humans.

        I should set higher standards for myself.

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          cs3000 @A Former User
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          @rosy-fingered while youre fixing hypothyroidism & metabolism you might do well with co2 leg baths, you just buy some baking soda and malic acid powder (found in apples), add at least 5g of both to a container big enough to cover your shins for every 1L of water, which combines & releases co2 bubbles.

          the co2 goes into your skin increases blood flow and promotes vein formation & healing

          20-30 minutes daily might help with improvement starting to show by 1 - 2 weeks

          https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/01.CIR.0000159329.40098.66
          45998f0f-d9c8-46dc-888a-16a451e80196-image.png

          also
          https://www.youtube.com/@RayPeatClips/videos
          &
          https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/4/ray-peat-resource-thread

          "world," as a source of new perceptions
          more https://substack.com/@cs3001

          "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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            A Former User @cs3000
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            @cs3000
            Excellent! Thank you very much.

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              yerrag @cs3000
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              @cs3000

              Nice find on the baking soda malic acid thingy.

              Funny using CO2 to activate a nitric oxide-cGMP progenitor cell though but hey. Why need NO when you have CO2 as a vasodilator already, right?

              Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
              engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
              wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
              the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                psi @A Former User
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                @rosy-fingered

                Most probably. I seem incapable of taking forward action in any direction.

                Could be a side effect of low metabolism. I feel less lethargic and apathetic after further minimizing PUFA. Maybe it's just placebo though

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                  A Former User @psi
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                  @psi said in Where do I begin?:

                  Could be a side effect of low metabolism.

                  I'll be trying out coconut oil in the morning very soon.

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                    psi @A Former User
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                    @rosy-fingered coconut oil gave me diarrhea if I ate more than 3 spoonfuls with nothing else.

                    I'd avoid pastry, because they're full of corn starch too. #1 PUFA source is fried chicken, #2 is cakes and similar deserts. Half life of PUFA in the body is 2 years, so why risk putting even a spoon a day in?

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                      A Former User @psi
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                      @psi said in Where do I begin?:

                      coconut oil gave me diarrhea if I ate more than 3 spoonfuls with nothing else.

                      I want to start out with a teaspoon of it and eventually ease myself into a full tablespoon.

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                        yerrag @psi
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                        @psi said in Where do I begin?:

                        @rosy-fingered coconut oil gave me diarrhea if I ate more than 3 spoonfuls with nothing else.

                        I'd avoid pastry, because they're full of corn starch too. #1 PUFA source is fried chicken, #2 is cakes and similar deserts. Half life of PUFA in the body is 2 years, so why risk putting even a spoon a day in?

                        Probably at that much in one shot, some don't get absorbed through the small intestine and goes to the colon, and being anti-microbial, it kills microbes and the endotoxin it leaves behind renders the gut liquid contaminated enough for the gut walls to reject absorbing back into blood. More liquid in the gut is what amounts to diarrhea.

                        But I take diarrhea as a good sign when I take biofilm busters and/or antimicrobials.

                        I use activated charcoal to absorb the endotoxins and the diarrhea goes away.

                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                          psi @yerrag
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                          @yerrag is there endotoxin if I don't eat any starch? Main reason for me not eating coconut oil is lack of a convenient meal I can make with it.

                          Activated charcoal absorbs minerals too. I'd be cautious to use it frequently. I'm trying eating carrots, seems to work well.

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                            yerrag @psi
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                            @psi I take AC only when endotoxin induces diarrhea occurs. Very infrequently.

                            Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                            engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                            wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                            the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                              yerrag @yerrag
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                              Endotoxin come from dead bacteria. Could happen when you take VCO. Just depends on context.

                              Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                              engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                              wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                              the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                psi @yerrag
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                                @yerrag great to know. I thought the polysaccharide part came from starch. I also had blood in my shit which went away only when I did sugar and milk. Perfect golden turds. Not entirely sure what caused the blood, probably PUFA made me sensitive to starch. Or acidity regulators added to store bought bread.

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                                  yerrag @psi
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                                  @psi

                                  The polysaccharide is the material of the car ass of gram-negative bacteria. It has little to do with the sugar we ingest, starch or non-starch.

                                  The intake of too much soluble fibers, whether in starch or in fruits create a water-abaorptive medium that when not quickly transited out the fecal route, encourages microorganisms to proliferate and multiply. These microbes continually die as their life span has limits, as well as engage other microbes in a never-ending battle for dominance, and the endotoxins are what's left of the gram-negative microbes.

                                  Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                  engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                  wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                  the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                    psi @yerrag
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                                    @yerrag are you taking coconut oil to purge the bacteria?

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                                      LucH @psi
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                                      @psi said in Where do I begin?:

                                      are you taking coconut oil to purge the bacteria?

                                      Cococonut is also virucide. So, it would be advisable not to take it at the beginning of the process when trying to alleviate the load for liver. No problem with coconut oil if you manage well.
                                      By the way, the way out is easier with MUFA (olive oil or avocado), and still easier with PUFA (white fish and seafood). Need to be known when the liver is overburdened.

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                                        yerrag @psi
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                                        @psi said in Where do I begin?:

                                        @yerrag are you taking coconut oil to purge the bacteria?

                                        No, my gut has been used to coconut oil growing up.

                                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                          psi @LucH
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                                          @LucH how do I sense that the liver is overburdened?

                                          Main problem with coconut oil is that I don't wanna eat it on its own. I was pondering making mashed potato to go with it, but I'm trying to exclude starch for the first streak without it in my life aside from fasting.

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