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      wester130 @heyman
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      @heyman what do you want the new product to be?

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        wester130 @Kilgore
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        @Kilgore who says you need the powder??

        mix the liquid with vitamin e

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          Decimus101 @beepee1
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          @beepee1
          Unless over supplementing with preg and it turning to too much prog, i do not see how or why it would lower 5 alpha reductase. @haidut had excellent posts where he provided evidence that under certain circumstances and dosages pregnenolone can be a solid source of tissue androgens and thats what I felt….it felt much milder than direct androgens, but noticable

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            LetTheRedeemed @wester130
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            @wester130 Do you trust this source?

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              wester130 @LetTheRedeemed
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              @LetTheRedeemed this looks better

              https://5arsociety.com/product/dhte-100mg-ml/

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                LetTheRedeemed @wester130
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                @wester130 thanks for sharing

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                  Ismail @jamezb46
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                  @jamezb46 @pannacottas what side effects did you experience?

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                    sunsunsun @Ismail
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                    @Ismail there are no sides from this dht topical product that I experienced in normal use. It is really good for injuries, bug bites, etc.

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                      Ismail @sunsunsun
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                      @sunsunsun thanks my man!

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                        wester130 @Ismail
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                        you may not need to inject the vials

                        some people said cypionate/heptanote DOES pass through the skin and some people say they don't

                        dht heptanoate 10ml //
                        15ml pure ethanol 99% non-denatured //
                        12ml Propylene Glycol //
                        12ml Isopropyl Myristate//
                        2 drops peppermint oil

                        topically, I am not sure if it works though if you rub it in

                        this study used testosterone cypionate topically and it worked

                        Primary Study: Topical Application in PrimatesTitle: Percutaneous absorption of testosterone cipionate in the baboon
                        Authors: J.M. Orentreich, D.S. Durr, et al.
                        Journal: Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
                        Year: 1986
                        Volume/Issue: Vol. 63, Issue 3
                        DOI: 10.1210/jcem-63-3-607

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                          sunsunsun @wester130
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                          @wester130 why are you guys even using ester hormones in the first place for topical

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                            wester130 @sunsunsun
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                            @sunsunsun no one is using esters topically, literally no one

                            I am proposing a theory that it could work though

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                              dht @wester130
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                              @wester130 esterified steroid powders already work orally via lymphatic system with dietary fat. Testosterone/DHT Enanthate/Cypionate is over 400 Daltons so its not like a significant/meaningful amount is getting through the skin
                              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10839713/

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                                sunsunsun @wester130
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                                @wester130 it does work, i have uses t cyp in olive oil topically, it does indeed absorb

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                                  sunsunsun @dht
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                                  @dht the ester dissasociates in skin layer and base hormone gets available

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                                    wester130 @dht
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                                    @dht hydrocortisone heptanoate exists for the skin, so I assume the ester does go through the skin

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                                      wester130 @sunsunsun
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                                      @sunsunsun but I actually want the ester to pass through the skin,

                                      otherwise it just becomes normal T gel, no ester, the ester gets cleaved off

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                                        sunsunsun @wester130
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                                        @wester130 there's posts with haidut on rpf about this topic

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