Sleep Paralysis Stories
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@ThinPicking cornered me? This type of thinking says more about you than anything else.
I see you have a bladerunner avatar. Btw this is an incel programming propaganda movie, normalizing digital waifus, prostitution and sex robots. That's just one of it's agendas. It's crazy to me that some people here still don't get what the actual purpose of the entertainment industry is.
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@ThinPicking said in Sleep Paralysis Stories:
ego is whining
Still going.
@natureman said in Sleep Paralysis Stories:
I see you have a bladerunner avatar. Btw this is an incel programming propaganda movie, normalizing digital waifus, prostitution and sex robots. That's just one of it's agendas. It's crazy to me that some people here still don't get what the actual purpose of the entertainment industry is.
You don't think much of people do you chap.
@ThinPicking said in The ethics of having children while in sub-standard metabolic condition:
That is your image, not mine. Aside, the film itself is brilliant. And steeped in metaphor for the avoidance of the very thing you're clearly desperate to hang on to.
@ThinPicking said in Sleep Paralysis Stories:
Some art was always there to make you uncomfortable.
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What's your diet and temperature like? You seem like high serotonin, stuck in some deep denial state about how society functions. I've seen these people around 9/11 and around covid. I'm always open to have my mind changed, so it's funny to see you talking about others ego while so desperately clinging to yours.
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@natureman said in Sleep Paralysis Stories:
What's your diet and temperature like? You seem like high serotonin
Epic burn, deep cut. I'm bleeding a chuckle.
@natureman said in Sleep Paralysis Stories:
deep denial state about how society functions
As far as I can tell, 'society' is a series of inanimate legal instruments and adversarial interests, 'it's just business'. You want me to think 'the ruling class' are unified and well oiled. I did for a while. Maybe you can walk me back with a convincing diatribe.
As you know how 'society functions'. Could you tell me how you'd like it to function? Have you seen 'Equilibrium' with Christian Bale. It's amusingly bad but contains some relevant memes about art.
@natureman said in Sleep Paralysis Stories:
so desperately clinging to yours
Yes I'm absolutely desperate natureman. Clutching for dear life.
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well dam
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@LetTheRedeemed it's just brainwashing.... from stories, books, movies, art.
"Well, you know, that's just like, your opinion, man."
A paranoic hallucination of a being in a setting where there's no influence from our society would be something resembling another animal/human, because that's the only thing that would scare us.
Maybe the natural realm is a shadow of the supernatural realm? That's a typical Christian belief, after all. Would you expect a 2D being (could it possibly exist) to have a reasonable interpretation of a 3D world outside its context? And it would be completely reasonable for the 3D being to create concepts on the 2D canvas, drawing inspiration from the nature in his dimension. I'm not saying I'm right. But, the mainstream answers seem contritely thought terminating -- in the face of true childlike curiosity.
That leads me back to my confounding questions:
*I don’t think this explains seeing a spiritual being, well defined, plain as day in the daytime. Or two people seeing the same thing at the same time. Or a human being physically harmed by one. Or a picture of it -- a friend showed me a picture they snapped of a dragon with a rat tail and bat's head and wings in the sky above his friends - this was not interpreting a funky clowd+shadow formation...If one stepped into a field and saw this, as is, it would be real, plain as day... (I can only assume you're thinking I'm describing the shadow/blurry images common where people extrapolate what it must be).
I think assuming everything is programming takes individuality and agency from individuals. I mean, I saw a demon right in front of me, every detail, and had no context for that kind of imagery before. I never before thought they had hair, and I never saw an animal that could portray that kind of predator imagery or induce such fear at the same time -- I never had that kind of fear of an animal.
My friend, in broad daylight, saw a muscle bound demon, 6ft3in, in his sister's bedroom, when it saw him, it freaked out and disappeared. He prayed for it to leave and then told his sister what he saw. it turns out his sister was seeing it nightly but thought family wouldn't believe her. She would just burry her face in the pillow til she fell asleep. My bro was hanging with a good friend in their car, talking about things of the Lord, and one passed a gum container to the other, and accidentally dropped it, but then it floated up into the hand of the other guy... they both just busted out with deep belly-laughing for 10 minutes. When I was 13-14, I was taken to a different church by my sister one night with a prophetess speaking over people's lives -- I wasn't comfortable with it, and I also had never been exposed to that kind of stuff before. That didn't stop a 2 week cyst from falling off my nose into my hand and then disappeared! I went to the bathroom to check in the mirror, and it was gone -- pink skin, zero bump or pain; the spot on my nose looked perfect. There's more.
Letheredeemed wrote his own proof: "Only religious people have visions of angels. These visions are based on depicitions. These depicitions were initially comissioned by the ruling class. You think the famous paintings and statues are just things that independent artists made for themselves?"
That wasn't supposed to be proof, per se, but food for thought -- a point raised to ask, "why?"
I don't mind being proven wrong on any count; my God is big enough to defend himself, and He will prove what he needs to to me... but I don't hear earnest inquiry that would at least say, "I don't know," just theories that are portrayed as fact. I think if there's one thing you're missing, not logic or proof, I believe it's a comprehensive, all encompassing love from another dimension, that can't be described with human words, and makes everything else feel trivial. I believe you can have that, now.
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@ThinPicking you already erased yourself from any meaningful discussion with your useless ad hominem "ego is whining". Which is again only saying something about you and no one else. Still waiting for some counter argument, which you can't provide.
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@natureman said in Sleep Paralysis Stories:
you already erased yourself from any meaningful discussion
Oh dear.
@natureman said in Sleep Paralysis Stories:
Still waiting for some counter argument, which you can't provide.
Two are right there, with humour. You don't seem to like that there are discoveries yet to be made.
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@highseabasch yo, to much potato and or eggs pretty good to cause sleep paralysis
Thrive for the highest degree of energy
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@Truth Thank you bro
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When I get it, sure it’s freaky and uncomfortable, but I’ve never seen any shadow figures. Maybe because I don’t believe in demons or Christianity so my imagination doesn’t take me there.
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@BroJonas for what it’s worth I’ve never seen any figures while under sleep paralysis, either.
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In memory, only had it once and it was last time I was using cypro for 2 weeks. Felt like what people describe as a Benadryl trip. It was really strange, can't say I liked it but it wasn't terrible.
It felt like I was in the process of waking up from my sleep. I could just about feel a physical sensation that my body was heavy, especially my arms which were placed above my torso. I felt as if I was going through one of those dreams where you sort of go about your morning routine but were actually still asleep, yet somehow different and more ominous.
I could see sort of looming shadows on my ceilings which gradually expanded, and in the sort of dreamscape I was at my sink basin where the mirror hangs, and there was a sort of golden glow being surrounded by pitch black shadows behind me. As I recognised the presence of the glow/shadow it quickly grew in size and intensity and I eventually woke up properly with dead arms.
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@Milk-Destroyer said in Sleep Paralysis Stories:
Benadryl trip.
When I was a teenager I tried the Benadryl thing (maybe 6-8 tablets) and occasionally took them to basically space out. You kind of forget where you're at. I was also really dizzy / slow. Then, lightning-like flashes were appearing when I closed my eyes, keeping me up late. Auditory noises that are probably totally imaginary kept happening and you kinda crack out. Do not recommend.
I've had sleep paralysis somewhat rarely but it is not predictable. I haven't been able to connect it to foods but I think eating late and low exercise / movement / alcohol play a factor. I almost never drink and eat earlier now so it isn't common.
I've definitely seen shadow figures, but that was more when I was younger. I would wager that the "boogeyman" is really just the product of sleep paralysis in children. The eyes are adjusted to the darkness so I think it's a natural state of fear if you believe you're awake and unable to move, then see a shadow or coat-rack and intuit a fearful situation.
More recently if I had sleep paralysis I felt I was trying to turn back into the dream but can't. Then, several times I felt like I was screaming at the top of my lungs and/or crying. I think the screaming is related to not being able to breathe from some temporary apnea/blocked nasal passage. The emotional distress is hard to explain because there's no cause, just the effect of feeling instant pain.
A good movie for everyone to watch is Altered States.
The movie definitely freaked me out in real life so of course things like that probably influence people's unconscious. The idea of a sensory deprivation tank, or of being in one, is awful, in my mind. What if somebody locks you in it - a coffin filled with water, while you're on LSD? Anyways - or how about A Perfect Storm? You see where I'm going - I think maybe sleep paralysis is very personal and is playing into individual fears and experiences.But usually if it happens I wake up or dream that I wake up and go back to sleep and don't remember it. One should also not read too much Pessoa - terrifying stuff.
