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    • MauritioM Offline
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      "After brushing out the effect of lifestyle factors as best as possible with statistical methods, the researchers found that during the study, participants who consumed 2 or more tablespoons of olive oil daily were 31 percent less likely to die than participants who did not consume olive oil."

      https://www.ergo-log.com/this-daily-amount-of-olive-oil-may-extend-your-lifespan.html

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        Benzoic acid, a known uncoupler - even in small amounts - can convert to salicylic acid inside the body.
        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2800778/

        The best source of benzoic acid are fresh cranberries.

        There's also the plant Benzoe Siam which is about 20-30% benzoic acid, but not sure if theres a food grade option.

        Essntial oil of plants are an inexhaustible source of interesting components, with interesting properties.

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            Berberine

            Berberine activates thermogenesis in white and brown adipose tissue and increases UCP1;
            PMID 25423280


            Berberine increases testosterone but also prolactin. There might be a sweet spot between 50-100mg/kg (rat dose) where you get minimal prolactin increase with a significant testosterone increase. Maximal T increase was almost 100%
            https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s44345-024-00007-3#Fig2


            Berberine sometimes receives criticism because some studies show that it can inhibit mitochondria.
            Which is true it can:"
            "...inhibit mitochondrial respiratory complex I” in vitro
            PMID 18285556

            Although in this study it had a positive effect on mitochondria in vivo; it increases mitochondria numbers and prevented mitochondrial dysfunction, which was accomplished via AMPK and SIRT1 activation.

            "Furthermore, we observe that the prevention of mitochondrial dysfunction by BBR, the increase in mitochondrial biogenesis, as well as BBR-induced AMPK activation, are blocked in cells in which SIRT1 has been knocked-down."
            PMID: 22027215


            "...extended the lifespan ... of naturally aged mice by ~16.49%”
            PMID 31773901


            This study reported an increase in the NAD+/NADH ratio.
            PMID: 22027215


            Berberine made someone on the RPF able to tolerate milk.
            https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/does-anyone-here-use-berberine-regularly.41514/post-669774


            Increases SERT; lowers serotonin
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21647174/


            decreased HFD-induced metabolic endotoxemia. Inhibits TLR4
            PMID 29202334.


            Berberine activates one of the bitter receptor family, (TAS2Rs).
            Interestingly that is the same receptor that Pregnenolone, DHEA and androsterone activate. (not sure if it's the same subtype)
            And, it's activation increases GLP-1 signaling.
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29363059/

            This bitter receptor is also partly responsible for the weight loss effects seen with berberine. That's a good counter argument when people say berberine doesn't even get absorbed much. It doesn't have to get aborbed to activate TAS2Rs.
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36341914/


            Berberine also activates the bile acid receptor FXR which has a a lot of downstream pro-metabolic effects.

            "These results indicate that BBR may exert its lipid-lowering effect primarily in the gut by modulating the turnover of bile acids and subsequently the ileal FXR signaling pathway."
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27932556/


            A lot of the effects of berberine seem to be downstream from bile acid metabolism and gut effects.

            "The abundance of Clostridium genera was significantly inhibited by BBR, which resulted in a significant reduction of secondary bile acids.."
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38740003/


            Berberine increases FGF21 in BAT and leads to less weight gain on a HFD.
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30991048/


            Berberine can lower adrenaline.
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12650858/

            Blocks alpha2 adrenoceptors
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1649363/
            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41039433/

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            • MauritioM Offline
              Mauritio
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              A few studies on salicylic acid/ sodium salicylate:

              Sodium salicylate induces ovulation in female mice. It also lowers Progesterone and estrogen, while increasing prostaglandins. Quite counterintuitive.
              The devil's in the detail though. The dosages that have the above effects correspond to an HED of ~2.5-20mg.
              If you look at the highest dose (21.2mg/kg) that's around 100mg HED, it basically had no effect on the above parameters.
              1000034382.jpg

              You can see on the highest dose it actually lowered the protein level of COX-2 and CYP17A1, which converts pregnenolone and progesterone into cortisol-like steroids.
              1000034384.jpg

              So I guess don't take low dose sodium salicylicate .

              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9916436/


              Interesting, old study on high dose salicylic acid. The authors say it depresses thyroid function and goiter formation. I guess they mostly mean TSH suppression by that.
              They also compare thyroxin to DNP and salicylicate. Both of these thyromimetics share many characteristics of thyroxin, but not all. For example they cannot antagonize myxedema.

              "Thyroxine, dinitrophenol (DNP), and salicyl-
              ate evoke many similar responses in man or the
              experimental animal (Table V). "

              1000034401.jpg

              From:
              SALICYLATES AND THYROID FUNCTION. II. THE EFFECT ON
              THE THYROI-PITUITARY INTERRELATION
              By J. WOLFF AND FRANK K. AUSTEN

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              • MauritioM Offline
                Mauritio
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                The hormonal effects of essential oils and herbs

                I've been trying to find the perfect herb that fulfills four conditions:

                1. Pro-androgenic
                2. Anti-estrogenic
                3. Pro- progestegogenic
                4. Pro-metabolic

                The best matches I've found so far are Satureja khuzistanica and thyme essential oils.


                Satureja khuzistanica is an herb of the mint family that mainly grows in Iran.

                In this study they gave chickens quite low doses of Satureja khuzistanica essential oil and you can see that at the dose of 0.5g/L, Testosterone increased by 5x. That's pretty wild.
                The same dosage also caused a significant decrease of abdominal fat, while lowering estrogen by about 50%. So from that study alone this herb seems to check 3 out of 4 boxes. Only the pro-progesterone effect is unclear.

                1000034452.jpg 1000034450.jpg

                From: Hypolipidemic Effects of Satureja khuzistanica Essential
                Oil in Broiler Chicken are Realized Through Alteration in
                Steroid Hormones


                Here's a rat study in which it also increased testosterone and basically any other measure of fertility you can imagine. It even increased number leydig cells!

                "SKEO significantly improved all the parameters evaluated such as potency, fecundity, fertility index, and litter size. Moreover, concentrations of FSH and testosterone were significantly increased in SKEO-treated groups. Also the weights of testes, seminal vesicles, and ventral prostate weights were increased by SKEO (225 mg/kg). Histopathological analysis showed that in male rats treated with SKEO (150, 225 mg/kg) the number of spermatogonium, spermatid cords, Leydig cells, and spermatozoids was increased. Also in these groups, the Sertoli cells were hypertrophic."
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16889906/


                It does show a pro-progesterone effect in this study on female rats, where it increases P4 by about 50%. But it increases estrogen just as much.

                https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5756246/#sec3


                But overall this is pretty good match and seems worth trying!
                The essential oil of this herb used in the first study was around 94% Carvacrol, so the effects seem to be mostly caused by it. Although, pure Carvacrol studies soemtomes show no effect or only a restaurative effect (to baseline), which is odd. So maybe there is a super androgenic phenol or fatty acid in the essential oil that we dont know about?
                Most studies use pios that have 90+% of Carvacrol but there rare ones using 25-50% oil. So if you buy it, id make sure to get one that is 90+% Carvacrol.

                Dosage: HED was roughly around 1g/day of the essential oils in all cited studies.


                More studies:

                Neuropretctive effects:
                "...has beneficial effects such as reducing neuronal death and inflammatory markers, as well as activating astrocytes and improving neurological outcomes."
                https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-31891-3

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                • LejebocaL Offline
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                  @Mauritio thanks! Interesting about Satureja khuzistanica essential oil (SKEO) and its very high carvacrol (CAR) content.

                  So maybe there is a super androgenic phenol or fatty acid in the essential oil that we dont know about?

                  I bet it is simply because no one dared or was asked to publish or study CAR pushing beyond the baseline...

                  The paper you quoted last, Satureja khuzistanica Jamzad essential oil and pure carvacrol attenuate TBI-induced inflammation and apoptosis via NF-κB and caspase-3 regulation in the male rat brain,
                  says
                  "It should be noted that in most of the studied variables, the effects of CAR were more potent and significant than the SKEO"

                  And this paper seems to provide very careful experiments.

                  In the said paper, there is also a table with the other SKEO compounds. Seeing that they are minuscule, I'd venture to conclude that this is CAR that is acting to get the benefits you've enumerated.

                  7924d09d-1bcf-4960-9ec5-c784e943ede6-image.jpeg

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                    CrumblingCookie @Mauritio
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                    @Mauritio said:

                    Dosage: HED was roughly around 1g/day of the essential oils in all cited studies.

                    1g of oregano/thyme/satureja EO every day is possible if dissolved evenly among a whole day's drinking water amount to not disintegrate one's mucosa but it's certainly not fun. About 10 drops per liter.

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                    • MauritioM Offline
                      Mauritio @Lejeboca
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                      @Lejeboca i thought so too but then why are there studies using isolated Carvacrol having no effect ?

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                        Lejeboca @Mauritio
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                        @Mauritio, perhaps minimum inhibitory concentration (MIC) wasn't reached?
                        A study of the minimum inhibitory concentration and mode of action of oregano essential oil, thymol and carvacrol

                        Hard to hypothesize, in general, however. Do you have any specific study in mind you'd like us to look at?

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                          Mauritio @Lejeboca
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                          @Lejeboca
                          Here is a Carvacrol only study, looking at Testosterone.
                          Fortunetly they used the same dosage (~around 1g HED) in this study.
                          And it showed no T increase for healthy animals but a strong increase in diabetic animals. So it had a restorative effect .
                          1000034553.jpg
                          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32153207/

                          But this still doesn't explain the 5X increase in the first study.
                          And the other rat study I posted also showed strong T increase in different dosages. So it doesn't seem to be a species related effect.

                          So with the satureja EO we see a T increase no matter if the animals are healthy and with Carvacrol only in unhealthy animals.

                          You can just buy an 80-90% Carvacrol orehano oil for 20-30 bucks so it should be easy to see if this works on humans.

                          Dare to think.

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                          • LucHL Offline
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                            @Mauritio said:

                            You can just buy an 80-90% Carvacrol orehano oil for 20-30 bucks so it should be easy to see if this works on humans.

                            Yes, could try but for sure you''l kill nearly the whole living stuff in your microbiome. Nearly all the phyla. The stronger will remain and occupy the place. And guess what would happen if you don't manage well afterwards... Nature abhores an empty place ...

                            useful info (decoding the study):
                            Reasons the Mouse Study is Irrelevant (or Misunderstood)
                            In healthy rodents, it actually lowers testosterone: Studies on healthy rats show that concentrated oregano essential oil causes testicular tissue injury and directly decreases serum testosterone levels. [1]
                            • It only fixes "broken" rats, it does not boost healthy ones: The rodent studies showing that carvacrol (the main compound in oregano) supports testosterone were done on rats that were explicitly poisoned with toxins, made diabetic, or subjected to extreme stress. In those cases, oregano acted as an antioxidant to protect damaged testicular cells. It does not increase baseline testosterone in healthy individuals. [1, 2, 3, 4]
                            • High doses actually lower testosterone: In studies on healthy rats, high oral doses of oregano essential oil actually caused reproductive toxicity, damaged Leydig cells, and significantly decreased serum testosterone levels and sperm counts. [1, 2]
                            • The delivery mechanism is totally different: Rodent studies often bypass the regular digestive process or use highly controlled extracts. When a human swallows a concentrated essential oil, it hits the stomach and upper intestines directly, wiping out the microbiota long before any theoretical benefit could ever reach the bloodstream.


                            1. Reproductive Toxicity Assessment of Origanum vulgare Essential Oil on Male Wistar Rats.
                              June 2015
                              Acta Scientiae Veterinariae 27(80):3-1

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                            • MauritioM Offline
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                              Glutamine

                              Glutamine seems helpful for preventing /treating cholestasis, gall stone formation, leaky gut and to decrease endotoxin absorption.
                              Peaty staples like gelatin and scallops actually have high amounts of glutamin.

                              "..the addition of glutamine to TPN solution can remarkably decrease the incidence, or ameliorate TPN induced cholestasis, and prevent small intestinal mucosal atrophy."
                              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8223015/

                              "Addition of glutamine to the TPN solution prevents these lithogenic changes."
                              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7745961/

                              "Depletion of glutamine results in villus atrophy, decreased expression of tight junction proteins and increased intestinal permeability. Moreover, glutamine supplementation can improve gut barrier function in several experimental conditions of injury and in some clinical situations. Furthermore, preventive effects of glutamine in experimental models of intestinal injuries have been recently reported."
                              https://www.ovid.com/jnls/co-clinicalnutrition/abstract/10.1097/mco.0000000000000339~glutamine-and-the-regulation-of-intestinal-permeability-from?redirectionsource=fulltextview

                              "Meanwhile, Gln administration alleviated liver injury, reduced the hepatic inflammatory response by inhibiting NLRP3 inflammasome activation, and decreased hepatic lipid accumulation by promoting VLDL secretion and fatty acid β-oxidation, as well as reduced bile acid synthesis by activating hepatic and ileal FXR in HFD-fed rats. Moreover, Gln administration restored HFD-induced intestinal barrier dysfunction, promoted intestinal fat absorption, suppressed intestinal inflammation, and also reshaped the gut microbiota composition in HFD-fed rats by downregulating the abundance of potential pathogens Escherichia-Shigella and upregulating the abundance of beneficial bacteria such as Akkermansia."
                              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36122193/

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                                @Mauritio said:

                                Glutamine seems helpful for preventing /treating cholestasis, gall stone formation, leaky gut and to decrease endotoxin absorption.
                                Peaty staples like gelatin and scallops actually have high amounts of glutamin.

                                Interesting. Thanks for posting.
                                One caveat: No glutamine if you're dealing with dysbiosis, often present with leaky gut. First be aware of the absence of candidosis. Glutamine is going to feed the beast.
                                The first sign of candida albicans is often seen with a white tongue. Test with spitting in a glass water.
                                One tip: When I take 500 mg glutamine powder (thin stomach lining => pain), I combine it with 500 mg taurine, on a empty stomach. I prevent the neuro-exciting effect and I introduce a high-effective AO for the brain. (500-1000 mg dose).

                                LucH
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                                  Mauritio @LucH
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                                  @LucH said:

                                  First be aware of the absence of candidosis. Glutamine is going to feed the beast.

                                  So does sugar - theoretically. That doesn't stop me from eating sugar.

                                  Besides, in this study on people in a ICU, people that received glutamine did not developed more but fewer candida infections. And 0 people that did develope a candida infection endep up dieing, whereas 6 people from the control group died.

                                  "In those patients, despite a similar high incidence of colonization with Candida, those receiving glutamine developed fewer Candida infections and none died, whereas six control patients who developed Candida infections died from multiple organ failure ..."
                                  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12093428/

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                                    last edited by LucH

                                    @Mauritio said:

                                    So does sugar - theoretically. That doesn't stop me from eating sugar.

                                    Misunderstanding. most people aren't aware of 2 contraindications when taking glutamine supplement. No real problem if you don't already suffer from candidosis.

                                    LucH
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                                      I was looking into the effects and overlaps between gut bacteria and steroids (there are many overlaps) and I found one very interesting strain called Turicibacter.

                                      Researchers found that:"A decrease in the abundance of Turicibacter is closely related to autism."

                                      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9659915/

                                      the same bacteria can lower serotonin by acting like the serotonin transporter SERT.

                                      "Turicibacter sanguinis was capable of serotonin uptake and, further, that this effect was inhibited by the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) fluoxetine2."
                                      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6930332/

                                      This could be helpful colon cancer since serotonin makes it grow.
                                      And in this study Turicibacter, together with the medicinal fungus Antrodia camphorata was able to inhibit TPH, 5HT1A+B+C+D !

                                      "...inhibiting serotonin signaling-related genes, including Tph1, Htr1d, Htr2a, Htr2b, and Htr2c (p < 0.05)"
                                      https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/pharmacology/articles/10.3389/fphar.2023.1203087/full


                                      Turicibacter also lowers weight gain on a HFD.

                                      https://healthcare.utah.edu/newsroom/news/2025/12/gut-bacteria-put-brakes-weight-gain-mice


                                      If you're wondering how one can increase turicibacter, there is currently no probiotic or supplement that contains it.

                                      But, the medicinal fungus, Antrodia camphorata, I mentioned above, significantly increases Turicibacter even at low dosages.

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                                      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10650666/


                                      Another find the same thing.

                                      "In high-fat diet-fed mice, Antrodia cinnamomea alcohol extract increased the relative abundance of 12 bacterial taxa, including Akkermansia, Bifidobacterium, Lactococcus, Muribaculaceae, Gordonibacter, and Turicibacter (Figure 8, Table S5)."
                                      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12193264/#ijms-26-05856-f008


                                      In this study Berberine could increase Turicibacter.
                                      https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/pharmacology/articles/10.3389/fphar.2020.00223/

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                                        @Mauritio said:

                                        "that the abundance of Turicibacter is negatively and positively correlated with T and estradiol..."
                                        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9659915/

                                        Kinda sounds like low Testosterone and high estrogen are implicated in autism. Peat right again.

                                        The quote describes the very opposite of what you made of it:
                                        The authors describe much Turicibacter = low T, high E, less autism.
                                        The direction of action seems unclear or perhaps even reciprocal, as they suggest the higher autism prevalence in males than females as a link by naturally higher T (male) = low Turicibacter, more autism.

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                                          @CrumblingCookie Oh yeah, youre right. Thanks for pointing that out.

                                          I still find it interesting. Antrodia camphorata The fungus I mentioned, is available as a supplement .

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