Pro Metabolic Substances Tier List
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The argument remains, since this was a very small number of captive mice. How well this three year study would translate long term to 70-80 year free living humans is still in question.
"Intriguingly, epidemiologic studies showed the fact that moderate alcohol intake is linked to lower risks of cardiovascular disease and metabolic-related disease [4, 9, 12, 13]. This raises the possibility of a beneficial role for moderate alcohol intake in other age-related diseases. Some previously published studies have suggested that moderate consumption of 30 g/d of alcohol (2 drinks per day) is beneficial to insulin sensitivity and triglyceride concentration in nondiabetic postmenopausal women and could decrease the risk of diabetes and improve insulin resistance [14, 15]. In another study, Wang et al. observed an inverse relationship between moderate alcohol consumption and the risk of becoming overweight or obese in a cohort of middle-aged and older women during 12.9 years of follow-up [16]."
That refers to the longest living mouse in each group of 60, not the entire group. The LLE group does seem to have a mice live a bit longer generally, but there are many times when the groups line up. At about week 140, both groups were at 50% survival, for example.
"Many times" You look at a two points of the graph, at week 110 & 140 and disregard the greater survival rates at ALL other times??
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@ZackVegas you judged intent with one quote that is obviously rendered erroneous when he simply shows research upon inquiry. When something could’ve been discovered with a good faith question instead of an accusation, it makes your cute butt look bad.
For what it’s worth, I believe I’ve encountered more people who have trouble with dairy than putting a thimble full of ethanol in a glass of oj.
Peat also supported alcoholic drinks like grain alcohols in moderation.
“Everything in context” is a pretty Peaty axiom
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2 days in and Wow, vodka is definitely speeding everything up. And Too much is like when I drink too much coffee… opposite experience than what I used to have on beer!
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@LetTheRedeemed can you expand on that?
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a teaspoon of everclear in a glass of juice or coca cola before bed is kinda ace
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@alfredoolivas it’s similar to the pro energetic feeling of coffee. I put a shot in 2 8oz bottles of sweetened oj.
I feel the energy and awakeness longer throughout the day, and I can tell if I drank too much at once, I’d get the runs like when I drink too much coffee in one sitting...
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is cordyceps mushroom in this tier list?
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@wester130 no sorry, is it good have you tried it?
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@alfredoolivas a lot of good things written about it, it increases ATP
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@wester130 ive given it to my dog because I heard it is good for lungs and she was recovering from pneumonia, it seemed benign at least. might actually start her on it again cause it seemed ok
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@sunsunsun hope she’s okay
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@alfredoolivas she's snoring xD
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@sunsunsun cute!!!
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I'm recently wanting to try more of Haidut's products. I'm thinking of trying Energin, Estroban (topically) and CortiNon. I see you rated Energin quite low, did you not notice much from it?
You rated Lisuride highly, it was the first product I ever bought from IdealLabs but I have never noticed an effect from it. What sort of dose do I need to use to get something out of it?
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