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      sunsunsun @LetTheRedeemed
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      a teaspoon of everclear in a glass of juice or coca cola before bed is kinda ace

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        LetTheRedeemed @alfredoolivas
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        @alfredoolivas it’s similar to the pro energetic feeling of coffee. I put a shot in 2 8oz bottles of sweetened oj.

        I feel the energy and awakeness longer throughout the day, and I can tell if I drank too much at once, I’d get the runs like when I drink too much coffee in one sitting...

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          wester130 @LetTheRedeemed
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          is cordyceps mushroom in this tier list?

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            alfredoolivas @wester130
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            @wester130 no sorry, is it good have you tried it?

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              wester130 @alfredoolivas
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              @alfredoolivas a lot of good things written about it, it increases ATP

              https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/cordyceps-militaris-fruit-body-extract-increases-testosterone-and-dht-secretion.38047/

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                sunsunsun @wester130
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                @wester130 ive given it to my dog because I heard it is good for lungs and she was recovering from pneumonia, it seemed benign at least. might actually start her on it again cause it seemed ok

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                  alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                  @sunsunsun hope she’s okay

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                    sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                    @alfredoolivas she's snoring xD

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                      alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                      @sunsunsun cute!!!

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                        Milk Destroyer
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                        I'm recently wanting to try more of Haidut's products. I'm thinking of trying Energin, Estroban (topically) and CortiNon. I see you rated Energin quite low, did you not notice much from it?

                        You rated Lisuride highly, it was the first product I ever bought from IdealLabs but I have never noticed an effect from it. What sort of dose do I need to use to get something out of it?

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                          wester130 @Milk Destroyer
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                          @Milk-Destroyer i think about 1/4 teaspoon of high quality cistanche powder would be better than pregnenolone/dhea

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                            alfredoolivas @Milk Destroyer
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                            @Milk-Destroyer I only noticed Lisuridess effects in doses of 800mcg orally. DA agonists don’t really produce the classic stimulant or dopaminergic feeling as they aren’t excitatory and the opposite effect happens; they are calming and can reduce adrenaline.

                            Yeah I don’t feel anything from B vitamins, energin is quite a standard dose of every one, though, it contains the most potent forms.

                            I wouldn’t apply any oily products topically, their formulations stand out when taken orally (vitamin E enhances absorption and may bipass liver)

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                              alfredoolivas @wester130
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                              @wester130 probably for many yeah

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