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      A Former User @ethan
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      @dht ah ok i re read your post and i overstand it now

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        alfredoolivas @ethan
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        @dht Haidut was ahead of the time, he made these posts nearly 10 years ago, long before anyone was talking about it.

        @sushi_is_cringe @dht DHT was the first real androgen I started with, I used 25mg (dissolved in DMSO) topically a day, and I did like the effects.

        The issue is that it is hard to get DHT nowadays, China has had a major crackdown on steroids, and all steroids are more scarce. DHT has basically disappeared and but PPL customer service said they plan to restock it.

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          alfredoolivas @samson
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          @samson Fascinating thank you

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            ethan @alfredoolivas
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              Hando-Jin @alfredoolivas
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              @alfredoolivas said in Pro Metabolic Substances Tier List:

              @Hando-Jin thanks for sharing.

              Thyroid doesn’t stimulate appetite for me and it might even lower appetite for me, if anything. But not significantly. I already am taking 50mg of exemestane a day, I like it.

              Thyroid increases GLP-1, which is why maybe it lowers appetite.

              Interesting.

              I've also found gelatin to be a really good suppresser of hunger cravings.

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                wester130
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                could eplerenone help with hair growth via blocking cortisol??

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                  A Former User
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                  Yea bro I smoke meth every morning. Not cause I’m dependent on it but just for its pro metabolic effects

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                    heyman @Guest
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                    @gg12 said in Pro Metabolic Substances Tier List:

                    Yea bro I smoke meth every morning. Not cause I’m dependent on it but just for its pro metabolic effects

                    😁

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                      alfredoolivas @wester130
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                      @wester130 It blocks the mineralocorticoid receptor, not the glucocorticoid receptor - to answer your question, which I assume is based off of Travis' hypothesis of hairloss, yes in theory, but probably less effective than spirolactone due to eplerenones short half life

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                        wester130 @alfredoolivas
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                        @alfredoolivas thanks

                        do you think cabergoline would be better to stop prolactin/cortisol and estogen?

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                          alfredoolivas @wester130
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                          @wester130 cabergoline is the cheapest, best value and most effective ergot derivative for lowering prolactin and cortisol - it is one of the main drugs used to treat cushings syndrome.

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                            LetTheRedeemed
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                            Do you like your results with Semaglutide? Looking into it

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                              LetTheRedeemed
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                              are you a skinny sexy Beefcake Peatbeast now is what i'm getting at

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                                alfredoolivas @LetTheRedeemed
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                                @LetTheRedeemed moggy chicken log is what I am doing now, would not touch any glp 1s now.

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                                  alfredoolivas @LetTheRedeemed
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                                  @LetTheRedeemed I did get some fat loss last year, but not enough........ still, for my size back then it was O.K. grateful.

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                                    LetTheRedeemed @alfredoolivas
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                                    @alfredoolivas did you have bad experiences with GLP-1's ? why the plateau? Is it worth trying on the start out?

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                                      alfredoolivas @LetTheRedeemed
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                                      @LetTheRedeemed it’s not even the plateau, it’s just I had so much weight and to lose and only trialed it for half a year. I wasn’t even weighing my self and was eating high salt & protein diet slowing down things even more. I think it might of blunted dopamine that’s the only side effect I MAY of noticed

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                                        LetTheRedeemed @alfredoolivas
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                                        @alfredoolivas ok cool. thanks for sharing

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                                          risingfire
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                                          Semigultide is not "pro-metabolic" by any stretch of the matter. If anything, it's the complete opposite. I can guarantee Peat would be against them as they slow gastric emptying. Not saying that don't have a place in weight loss

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                                            LetTheRedeemed @risingfire
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                                            @risingfire you know, I’m just throwing out a confounder here so if there’s any counter data I welcome it.

                                            As I began fixing my extremely outta wack hormonal profile, my bile dumps and frequent loose-stool movements, solidified and became harder to pass, and now thyroid/pro-metabolic stuff like cascara sagrada make that fast and painless, sometimes wipeless poos. Now, when I have a stress event, I may have loose bowel movements day of, and slow solid movements the next day. Basically, this looks like i’ve finally cracked the serotonin dominance that was maintaining gut motility, and now must improve the pro-thyroid parasympathetic system for gut motility.

                                            Could this be what’s happening with the semiglutide reaction?

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