A combination of vitamin B1/B3/B7 and aspirin, has curative effects on human mantle-cell lymphoma
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@evan-hinkle You wrote:
I'll be 3 months in at the end of April.
I wonder when we can say "we are cured" when following this kind of supplement plan. I wouldn't want to do this forever. Is 30 days enough? How about Evan's 90 days?
There has to be an end to it otherwise it's no cure at all.
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@cremes just as an update, I still have my thyroid nodule. I was taking the combination in the morning after breakfast and I don’t think I was well fed enough for the powerful combination. I switched to after lunch and am tolerating it much better. That said, seemingly no change in my nodule, som somewhat bummed, but am willing to continue with the protocol at lunch where I have a better base on food on board.
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Couple of general thoughts. The B’s were mixed into the chow of the rats. I wonder if they grazed on it all day or if they ate in one sitting? Grazing would have could dole the dose out at a drop vs a one shot.
I’m curious to see the results of the aspirin substitute that Georgi is testing. Apparently it lowered the regression curve from three weeks to one week.
Also, I believe the B’s and aspirin are no longer needed after tumors are gone. I may have misheard, but during a recent podcast with Mercola, Georgi mentioned that the tumors did not return, (and I thought he said this was after ceasing the B’s/aspirin)? Maybe someone else can confirm?
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@evan-hinkle said in A combination of vitamin B1/B3/B7 and aspirin, has curative effects on human mantle-cell lymphoma:
@cremes just as an update, I still have my thyroid nodule. I was taking the combination in the morning after breakfast and I don’t think I was well fed enough for the powerful combination. I switched to after lunch and am tolerating it much better. That said, seemingly no change in my nodule, som somewhat bummed, but am willing to continue with the protocol at lunch where I have a better base on food on board.
Thanks for the update, I appreciate the details.
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@Crypt-Keeper have you tried taking a lower dose? Perhaps splitting the capsule into 5 capsules? Hence a lower RDI % etc.
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Georgi speaks about the result of his study here.
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@DavidPS thanks for posting this, it answered many of my questions.
Sure enough, treatment was stopped after full regression, and the tumors did not come back.
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It might be that he is waiting for a publication, but Im not sure if he really wants to patent this treatment. Did he say that anywhere ?
Plus, I'm not sure if you can patent a combination of basic vitamins. Normally you would have to change something structurally on the molecules ... -
@Mauritio - Yes, it appears that he is not interested in patenting.
He selected the least expensive form of B1 to make his invention accessible to as many people as possible.
I am a registered patent attorney. I think he could obtain a patent based on the limited facts that I have. He solved a long-standing problem; that is a strong indication of patentability.
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I’m continuing to plow through this interview. Georgi is now running a follow up study with three groups of rats including the vitamins and aspirin in one group, and another group with ONLY 2,6 dihydroxybenzoic acid, (no B vitamins ).While the tumors are regressing as expected in the aspirin vitamin group, the 2,6 dihydroxybenzoic acid group is already cured!
https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/product/aldrich/d109606
I am not a doctor, this is not medical advice. The above link is for research purposes only.
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@evan-hinkle said in A combination of vitamin B1/B3/B7 and aspirin, has curative effects on human mantle-cell lymphoma:
Between this and some vitamin K3 we could lose weight and cure our metabolic diseases at the same time.
BTW, I'm serious about the latter part. As bioenergeticists, we believe that most/all diseases are brought about by broken or sub-optimal metabolism. If it's true, then this protocol should also serve to potentially solve type2 diabetes, heart disease, hypertension, IBS, dementia, alzheimers, OBESITY, and autoimmune diseases like MLS, Lupus, etc.
I have heart disease. I'm going to try this protocol and see what happens. I'm already taking B1, low-dose B3, and aspirin daily. I just need to adjust the amounts a bit and add in some biotin.
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Anyone watched Georgi’s interview on the strong sistas channel? He goes into discussing his study in quite some depth:
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@Ismail hey bud, yep, been working through that interview in pieces all day. One of the best 2 hour podcasts I’ve ever listened to. Just wall to wall information.
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@evan-hinkle haha same my man an extremely beneficial episode - trying to finish it off, life keeps getting in the way
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@haidut
amazing .something extra (lipoic acid as another cofactor for PDH)
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.4161/cbt.22003
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnagi.2020.00262/full -
@DavidPS said in A combination of vitamin B1/B3/B7 and aspirin, has curative effects on human mantle-cell lymphoma:
@Mauritio - Yes, it appears that he is not interested in patenting.
He selected the least expensive form of B1 to make his invention accessible to as many people as possible.
I am a registered patent attorney. I think he could obtain a patent based on the limited facts that I have. He solved a long-standing problem; that is a strong indication of patentability.
Ok in that case ,you know more about this than me.
Would be an interesting thing to ask him if he has any intentions on patenting it. -
@Ismail said in A combination of vitamin B1/B3/B7 and aspirin, has curative effects on human mantle-cell lymphoma:
Anyone watched Georgi’s interview on the strong sistas channel? He goes into discussing his study in quite some depth:
Thanks for posting , I was going to ask where he talked about it.
I'll watch it soon, but does he mention how he came on with using dihydrobenzoic acid ?
IIRC his methylene blue product contains benzoic acid ... -
I'm surprised Georgi didn't include B2 into the mix as well due to it's FNM/FAD qualities. The results are impressive nonetheless, but unless he's got a good reason for not including it I don't see why a human trying to replicate this couldn't do a B1/B2/B3/B7 + aspirin combo.
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@Mauritio talks about it at 21 mins (worked better than aspirin so far)
aspirin + 2,6 dihydroxybenzoic acid stopped progression but didnt regress,
2,6 alone without aspirin or b vits stopped & already showed regression
vitamins + aspirin or vitamins + 2,6 are in between, with the vitamins + 2,6 working better[btw in vivo benzoic acid as sodium benzoate has toxicity when you go to high milligram doses,
it crashes cholesterol , crashes blood cells induces anemia (weirdly after an initial increase) (maybe through lowering ceruloplasmin), skews electrolytes after 1 week, at dose ~200mg and ~600mg
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2862570/bin/nihms193118f7.jpg
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/268298860_Effect_of_oral_intake_of_sodium_benzoate_on_some_haematological_parameters_of_wistar_albino_ratsmaybe the 2,6 form works different , (id think so because if it was crashing red blood cells significantly that would play into less co2 production and hinder the positive outcome)
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Thanks.
So the way I heard it, the following order emerges in terms of effectiveness, from high to low (mind you, the experiments are still ongoing):- 2,6 dihydroxybenzoic acid
- 2,6 dihydroxybenzoic acid + B Vitamins
- Aspirin + B Vitamins
- Aspirin + 2,6 dihydroxybenzoic acid