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    • JenniferJ
      Jennifer @herenow
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      @herenow, thank you for clarifying.

      I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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        @herenow

        When Ray died, the hospital system was amuck with doctors who put practically every patient as a COVID patient, and those who needed care other than as a COVID patient were sidelined and care was not what one would get from a hospital in unhysteric times.

        I can understand if Ray chose not to go to a hospital and be made to die thoroughly oxygenated which would not be different from being asphyxiated in terms of outcome.

        I didn't go to a hospital in that hysterical period. I was the most sick then. I would rather die from my own treatment than from theirs. But unbeknownst to me at the time, the Carbogen machine I used which I bought from a member of the other forum, Steve, got my body back to be able to slowly heal, not by itself but with other substances.

        I have Peat to thank for knowing what alternatives I had in that situation.

        I think that if Peat had died doing it his way, the outcome in a deranged hospital system at the time may not have been any better.

        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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          CrumblingCookie @yerrag
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          @yerrag said:

          I would rather die from my own treatment than from theirs.

          This is what circumstances boil down to in the end.
          The current relief of pressure in healthcare is but a mere respite for a further deep dive to come.
          I'm not amused.

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            ThinPicking @CrumblingCookie
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            @CrumblingCookie said in Dr. Ray Peat's phobia of the medical system turned against him towards the end of his life:

            The current relief of pressure in healthcare is but a mere respite for a further deep dive to come.

            "Times are going to get worse."

            What is it that you think will happen CC. Better yet, what do you think it would take for that not to happen. If it involves a struggle, can you think of anything else.

            I'm not amused.

            This probably has health consequences.

            Why did the chicken walk in the middle of the road.

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              herenow @Jennifer
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                ThinPicking @herenow
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                @herenow said in Dr. Ray Peat's phobia of the medical system turned against him towards the end of his life:

                yes please

                Your new avatar sir.

                alt text

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                  CrumblingCookie @ThinPicking
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                  @ThinPicking said in Dr. Ray Peat's phobia of the medical system turned against him towards the end of his life:

                  I'm not amused.
                  

                  This probably has health consequences.

                  Why did the chicken walk in the middle of the road.

                  TP breaking open the philosophical questions. Oh yes most definitely. It is to be avoided to become pessimistic. Although I reckon it may be a necessary developmental step. So it is advised to overcome pessisism. Without retracting into prior naiveté.

                  If you're on a calm country road that's managable.
                  But if you find yourself translocated to or needing to cross a freeway intersection, well, it's far less easy to just wing to the side. You may as well stand still and hope for the best or accept your fate without the agony or exhausting your ninja-like skills of dodging traffic. Unless quickly learning to fly is an option.
                  freeway intersectiont

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                    herenow @ThinPicking
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                    • ThinPickingT
                      ThinPicking @herenow
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                      A reference to the idea conventional medicine could have assisted him I guess.

                      Mine is only humour. I would be serious in suggesting a mandatory avatar policy on this forum however.

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                      • ThinPickingT
                        ThinPicking @herenow
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                        @herenow said in Dr. Ray Peat's phobia of the medical system turned against him towards the end of his life:

                        moderator

                        This account isn't btw, thanks to nomane truther. It's blockable now 💪

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                          Peatful
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                          Copium:

                          Refers to an act someone "consumes" to deal with loss, failure, or disappointment, often through denial or an irrational interpretation of events.

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                          As for me
                          I meant it in the way of misreading Peat and his death.

                          He was a bad ass
                          Feared nothing

                          The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                          SD

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                                ThinPicking @herenow
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                                @herenow said in Thread regarding Ray Peat possibly choosing not to use the medical system toward the end of his life:

                                your trolling

                                I don't know what you mean. But I know what this thread was.

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                                    ThinPicking @herenow
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                                    It hasn't been described as such by me. It has by you. Here, now.

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                                            ThinPicking @herenow
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                                            Is that to me hn? There's a 4 hour difference in the comments.

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