Best Idealabs combo/ stack to raise androgens?
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Title. In the past, I used
- Pansterone only
- Pansterone + Androsterone
- Pansterone + 11-Keto-DHT
- 6-keto-P4 + Andro
- Andro on its own (not sustainable, lowers estrogen too much)
- Gonadin on its own
I remember Haidut recommending to combine an aromatizable compound with a non-aromatizable compound.
I don't really remember which one worked best for me. I've had good experience with 6-Keto-P4, felt androgenic effects.
Same from Andro, but it lowered my estrogen too much if I took it every day.
I've also gotten androgenic and pro--libido effects from Kuinone, of course. -
Trengesterone
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@GreekDemiGod ask Dr. Mercola
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@GreekDemiGod how much Andro were you using and how did you know estrogen was too low? I’m w just started using a few drops a day without any other androgenic supplements
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6-keto-p4 + cortinon
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@VirtueAgonist even 2mg daily would be problematic.
Limp dck was the symptom. -
Gondin didn‘t gave me androgenic feelings. I didn‘t have keto P4 on the radar. I‘m a little bit scared to order the „real“ hormones to germany due to customs.
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5 drops gonadin + 1 squeeze of pine pollen tincture (1:1) gave me very androgenic alpha feeling for 2-3 hours but afterwards was like a crash.
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I haven't tried it but I've heard great things about shilijat
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@Mr-X Idealabs is very discreet
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@AR04 what do u mean with discreet? I dont get it
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@Mr-X Meaning that the packaging does not makd it obvious whats inside
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I'm going to try oral DHEA 15mg from Life Extension+ Androsterone from Idealabs.
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@GreekDemiGod
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does somebody what the crash was after I took 5 drops of gonadin and 1 full squeze of the pinepollen tincture?
I remeber doin 2 drops of gonadin on the gonads an 1 full squeeze of pine pollen tincture rubbed into the belly area didnt gave me the crash
Was the crash the higher dose of gonadin or taking pine pollen tincture orally instead of topically?
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@Mr-X Here's an interesting thread I was perusing just this morning about synergy between Androsterone and DHEA. Looks like a 1:1 or 1:3 A to DHEA ratio maximizes the potential.
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@cremes That is applicable to topical DHEA, I believe. I'm taking oral DHEA 15mg, not sure how it would translate in oral dose.
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@cremes thx i know this thread but i dont have preg/dhea/andro i will order soon. Little scared of customs ATM
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4 drops gonadin on the gonads+ 2 squeezes of pine pollen tincture sublingually felt pro social for the evening. Had trouble gettin to sleep, and today the next day mood is off layin around for the whole day slight slight depressed feeling. Somebody mentioned on RPF this also from pine pollen tincture after one application the next day
Not worth in the long run
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Somebody got androgenic feeling from alloP?