New "Mission" of RPF

[BioEclectic]

Wanted to drop in and say hello to some old names and mentors. I was mostly a lurker but also a voracious reader and wanted to let all of you know that you guys and gals are great.

The contributions made sharing info, self experimentation, and especially help offered won't be forgotten.

We'll carry Ray's torch forward within the greater bioenergetic movement no matter what forum or group we find ourselves in. Hat tip

[Regina]

@saturnuscv yeah, I had six-pack abs you could ricochet bullets off of when I was over-training. But I also had insomnia, had to get up to pee frequently at night, stammered through conversations and barely spoke up. Often tongue-tied and looked down when people talked to me.

Now, I am sometimes amazed at my improved lingual skills. I'm sortof glib even. Assertively witty.

I sleep like the dead.

I only took LSD twice. It gave me temporary freedom from those symptoms too.

[ilovethesea]

@C-Mex I was sad hearing that too, but I believe you are right it was by choice. I recall someone telling me they sent him money and he never even cashed the checks. Makes it all the more infuriating to see a dirtbag grifter like Smith smearing Ray’s name and Charlie propping him up into god-like status.

@yerrag interesting theory that Charlie was replaced. I remember you saying that about Tara during Covid and I agree her stance was weird as hell for a supposed longtime Ray Peat follower. If RPF was indeed being “watched” (as the filmmakers told me) then it only makes sense they would have “plants”. As for Charlie, I was there since 2013 and I remember he was always a bit authoritarian but not religious. Maybe they replaced him at some point with this new “end times” persona he has now? It definitely makes a mockery of everything Ray was about.

@jwayne I noticed Georgi started putting some of his product descriptions on the Idea Labs website instead of linking through to the RPF posts. So he may be doing an Irish exit from the forum.

@Regina I would love to hear more about your diet. You look incredible. It seems like the “new RPF” crew is prioritizing thinness (and green poop???) above all other health markers. I’d rather be a bit fat than have sallow skin, frown lines, veiny arms and grey hair. At least in her before picture she had nice pink skin and a rosy glow.

Anyone know what is the green poop they are supposedly “detoxing”? Could Charlie as the forum owner get in trouble for encouraging this? In light of Blossom’s photos it looks and sounds like they are all making themselves sick.

[S.Holmes]

@ilovethesea I believe Mike Fave explained the bile colored poop in his very thorough deconstruction of the Toxic A pseudoscience. It isn't a healthy detox by any means. I'll see if I can find it again.

[Peatful]

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-real-vax-reason-cast-your-vote.41787/

13.2% of Ray Peat forum MEMBERS (ones which can vote on a poll) thought the vaxx was to help people.
Shockingly odd

Ive worked in hospitals for many years.
It is an alternate universe.
Dogma
Indoctrination
Greed
Pride
Laziness
Bitching like you wouldn’t believe
Just so nasty

If Tara was in such an environment
Single mom of a son iirc
She was probably in survival mode

Cognitive dissonance

[S.Holmes]

@S-Holmes said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@ilovethesea I believe Mike Fave explained the bile colored poop in his very thorough deconstruction of the Toxic A pseudoscience. It isn't a healthy detox by any means. I'll see if I can find it again.

Here it is. Begin at 12:15
https://youtu.be/twZHuy5EoqA?si=n7WqoScaiw2jX-sH

[ilovethesea]

@S-Holmes Thank you. Interesting comments from this person under Mike’s video...

@will_of_europa
1 day ago
I'm one of the top researchers under Garret and Grant's camp.
I don't know who Charlie is, only that he's forcing low A down Peat forum's throats.
I do find this odd. As much as I can back all of my claims up with papers, I'm not entirely sure why Charlie has operated in the way that he has. Low A has a lot of enemies as the moment, so I wouldn't rule out the possibility of enemy agents trying to ruin our optics.

@will_of_europa
1 day ago (edited)
I'd like to know too. I don't know anybody in the Low A Toxic Bile Theory movement who's actually spoken to Charlie, and I'm one of the leading researchers. Seems odd, and not how I would go about introducing new ideas to somebody else's legacy.

@will_of_europa
1 day ago
As far as I know Garret hasn't even talked to Charlie, or any of us doing TBT theory for that matter. We don't know who he is.

[A Former User]

@ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@S-Holmes Thank you. Interesting comments from this person under Mike’s video...

@will_of_europa
1 day ago
I'm one of the top researchers under Garret and Grant's camp.
I don't know who Charlie is, only that he's forcing low A down Peat forum's throats.
I do find this odd. As much as I can back all of my claims up with papers, I'm not entirely sure why Charlie has operated in the way that he has. Low A has a lot of enemies as the moment, so I wouldn't rule out the possibility of enemy agents trying to ruin our optics.

@will_of_europa
1 day ago (edited)
I'd like to know too. I don't know anybody in the Low A Toxic Bile Theory movement who's actually spoken to Charlie, and I'm one of the leading researchers. Seems odd, and not how I would go about introducing new ideas to somebody else's legacy.

@will_of_europa
1 day ago
As far as I know Garret hasn't even talked to Charlie, or any of us doing TBT theory for that matter. We don't know who he is.

Phony counter-narrative. They're watching us, lol.

[A Former User]

@C-Mex

What researcher talks in terms of being in a 'camp' with 'papers to back me up'? Why would they care or even know about 'enemies'? What about Smith's own tweets deriding Peat? Sorry, this looks like a cheap attempt to establish legitimacy as a counter movement by claiming anybody would care to try to subvert it.

Everything about this 'toxic a/bile bs convinces me of its invented origins.

[ThinPicking]

@ilovethesea

@"Will_of_Europa" you cringey little clown, all three of you have interacted with each other on Twitter at least. It would be commonly doubted that was the extent of your dealings with each other if anyone cared about you too. "the leading researchers". Laughable.

Get on this forum if you think your "research" is sufficient to justify Garrett's campaign.

[Jaffe]

“Will of Europa” is lying or isn’t in-the-know as much as he thinks he is.

They know who Charlie is.

Charlie asks them for permission to cross-post information on the forum.

Partly why he stopped posting testimonials from Garrett’s “network.”

[JamesGatz]

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[A Former User]

@Jaffe said in New "Mission" of RPF:

“Will of Europa” is lying or isn’t in-the-know as much as he thinks he is.

They know who Charlie is.

Charlie asks them for permission to cross-post information on the forum.

Partly why he stopped posting testimonials from Garrett’s “network.”

These people are likely state actors, mimicking the discussions we've had here.

[JamesGatz]

@Peatful said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@JamesGatz
you know I care for you?

You seem like a great guy.
Full of character.
A seeker.
I really respect those qualities.

Don’t chase temporal things.

I am (far) better off being poor of material things; and rich in true Life.

Find your love.
Start your family.
Money will follow.

You may not see that simplicity now-
maybe in time.

All my best in your future adventures….

Maybe 5 years ago I would've believed you and followed your advice. But right now ? I truly do not care. Truly. I do not care about any singular woman in this entire world other than my mother and I will never truly care about any singular woman in this entire world other than my mother.

You think a girl will help you out when you're in trouble bro ? Yea bro, you need some more life experiences. You think a woman will love you for years and years? Yea try living with her for a couple years bro, See how you feel after that. People really think that we live in a perfect world where men and women were supposed to live in harmony and everything was made perfect for each other. No bro... the game is flawed. You really have to focus on yourself bro, and only yourself and when a chick starts acting funny, just walk away bro. I'm not broken-hearted, I just don't care. Truly. Genuinely, Deep Down Inside, every girl wants you to be a dick who only focuses on yourself, Deep Down Inside though, they'll never tell it to you. So why beat around the bush? I just give them what they want. Just give them some dick when they're horny and focus on yourself bro. Keep your heart inside your chest and never trip over some pussy.

The world is changing. I don't recognize my country anymore. I'm not a doomer, but everyone in my city is getting sick, and things are getting worse. I'm watching my country collapse in real-time and everyone is just messed up in the head. I just got 2 things on my mind: Health and Wealth. If a chick wants to give me some pussy, then that's cool, but I'm not tripping over a hoe. A lot of these chicks got to put 2 pounds of make-up on their face just to get approached (wish I was joking). It's whatever man, just focused on my money, fuck being in a committed relationship with a modern woman bro.

[ilovethesea]

Just so you know who we’re dealing with here... this is “Will of Europa” - a 300 pound “leading health researcher” who brags about his green and yellow poop

[A Former User]

@ilovethesea

Self-experimentation being a feature of Ray Peat's work, but you won't gain weight on this one. Confuse, divide, conquer.

None of these people can impugn Ray Peat's work. The real losers in this charade are the people for whom his work gets lost, public policy changes if his perspectives were more widely accepted, and the future research he may have inspired, and yet still might despite all of this.

[saturnuscv]

@ilovethesea fucking LOL. Weird how all facelord wignats are so aggressively ugly and retarded.

[Mauritio]

@Peatful said in New "Mission" of RPF:

All in the name of God of course

"Do not use God's name in vain"
If you use the highest (god) for the lowest (selfishness), that's actually quite the sin in Christianity. Worse than if you had just been selfish on its own.

[Peatful]

@Mauritio said in New "Mission" of RPF:

@Peatful said in New "Mission" of RPF:

All in the name of God of course

"Do not use God's name in vain"
If you use the highest (god) for the lowest (selfishness), that's actually quite the sin in Christianity. Worse than if you had just been selfish on its own.

That’s why Jesus called the hypocrites (hypo=low. Crites=critical thinking) children of the devil.

And yes Charlie- I unfortunately believe that is you.

Addendum for clarification:
This has nothing to do about TBT or VAT. I don’t care.
It has everything to do with calling a “Ray Peat Diet” poison- but yet still profiting from his name, his work and his (altruistic) character.

[Mauritio]

@Peatful said in New "Mission" of RPF:

That’s why Jesus called the hypocrites (hypo=low. Crites=critical thinking) children of the devil.

Exactly.
And the some of the people he has the most problems with are the Pharisees, a Jewish sect that practiced a kind of performative faith, for the sake of beeing seen as holy; and not whores, thieves or people that actually commited a crime.