I want to bully danny roddy
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#BIOENERGETICFRIDAY
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I'm not sifting through this whole thread as it seems to go wildly off topic. What I will say: I like Danny for the most part. He's done a lot of good work and he seems like a genuinely nice chap. There's a ton of info he's shared that's available for free online. So he can be generous. But to charge such an obscene amount of money for ONE phone call per month - $410 - is ridiculous and points to an enduring problem in the health sphere. I get that he needs to earn a living. I get that he probably gets contacted all the time by people looking for free advice. But charging so much money turns him into this all-knowing expert health god, and it's so radically at odds with the spirit of Ray Peat, who right up until his final days was giving health and life advice for free.
It's akin to psychiatrists and psychotherapists - charing obscene amounts of money to 'help' people with issues that are urgent and fundamental to their wellbeing. Making it about expertise and elitism. Making people feel like to get better they have to take out a second mortgage. Josh and Jeanne Rubin do the same thing - they constantly talk about how their health advice is the single most important thing you could learn and vital to your wellbeing and then charge you a ridiculous amount of money to get said advice.
If you REALLY genuinely want to help people and truly believe you have the intel to do so, you need to man up and find a way to fund your own life via other means, so you can give out your 'expert' advice for free or a nominal amount. It's what the very best psychotherapists do - they appreciate that money is a barrier to getting better and they really believe in their work, so they offer to see patients for a tiny fee. It's a shame people like Danny haven't understood this. In fact he seems to be charging more than ever for his expertise, which tells me he's putting his own Mexican lifestyle ahead of all else.
I guarantee whatever someone hears on those unbelievably, stupidly expensive zoom calls they could find FOR FREE online.
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@jd_au I like Ray’s flippancy toward money making, but he worked during a very financially stable time in America, and then had SS in retirement — Danny and the millennial generation doesn’t have either.
The best answer is for our economy to get fixed, not to punish people stepping out and taking a risk. For a long time Danny charged 25% the going rate of many alt health therapists.
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@LetTheRedeemed Yep all good points. I still believe charging $410 for ONE 45 minute phone call is obscene and gross and a strange red flag about the guy. I guess if someone is desperate enough, or more likely, lazy enough, to pay that amount - I mean there must be a market for it. You can literally find all the advice he's likely to give you for free on his various platforms. He needs to foster more self-awareness around the potential to entrench someone's learned helplessness by charging such amounts and making health knowledge and healing seem fiendishly complicated and the purview of the 'elites'. To say nothing of the ego that must be involved in setting such a high fee.
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Also it's a little disingenuous to imply that Ray didn't charge people for his advice because he was financially secure and didn't need to. He could have. Right til the end. And made a small fortune. He did charge for his newsletter but it was a crazy low fee. He could have increased that fee 5 times over, but he didn't. I believe he used to charge people small fees for consults back in the 70s and 80s, but I could be wrong. My sense of him was that he made conscious choices around fees that spoke well of his morals.
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these niggas b pocket watchin
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Also it's a little disingenuous to imply that Ray didn't charge people for his advice because he was financially secure and didn't need to.
Having the house bought and paid for and retirement guaranteed is the most genuine reason to make free financial moves possible.
One bad turn completely wipes out self-employed people. They can afford zero storm weathering, so they have to make hay while the sun shines.
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@jd_au ps, I just checked and it’s $249 for one 45 minute call a month. I’ll delete all my comments if you do hahaha
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I remember when danny didn't know shit and then all of a sudden released his book for 50$ in pdf.
Its all a money making scam. Desperate people, especially sick people will throw money at anything to get better. And grifters know that.
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@heyman Danny Roddy has helped me infinitely more than you have, and based on where I was vs where I am, I’m very grateful for that help. Somebody could positively change their life just from the free videos he’s done on aspirin and thyroid.
If someone believes in what they’re finding and they want to put their research into a book to sell, I honestly don’t care, I’ve never bought his books and he never peddled them to me.
I’m convinced that nothing would get done in this world if it was filled with you complainers and scoffers. Disagreement is not complaint.
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