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@Jennifer haha yes I love it — keep the passion alive Glad I helped you find it

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@Tarzan17 said in Hedonism: My gut tells me hedonism is self-destructive. I'm just not sure if this is the case always or if it depends. Do you guys think occasional hedonism from time to time is harmless/okay? Curious to hear people's thoughts because for some reason I feel lots of guilt whenever I allow myself to indulge in life pleasures. Hedonism is optimal. It aint necessary self destructive, it can be self constructive and lzd to the highest degree of energy and well being. If you feel guilt it is either because the pleasure source is having a negative impact on you(draining your ressources per exemple), or your ideas about that pleasure source are that it is negative therefore you feel guilt. Simpla gotta remove pleasures sources that contribute to lower energy and well being afterward, and consume those that lead to higher energy and well being afterward

@gg12 I think that is kinda specific to what you life looks like and what your goals. For many people being social is simply part of work. For others it's part of resting. For someone who either wants to be a great orator or is socially anxious it would be part of self-improvement. I personally don't think you can force being social. How social we are heavily depends on our physical health. If we don't have the energy for the interaction then it will always feel shallow and fake and not lead anything further. However as I mentioned prolonged boredom/being in the default mode network does change your perception of time and as consequence how we judge social interactions. In the end it makes one more open, after all you are bored, if you don't have anything else to do you might just chat around.

@NoeticJuice Awesome Dude !

IIRC Ray found some Buddhist ideas very silly and anti-life

@cs3000 yeah voltage (ph) and frequency communicating the structure of the organs. The organs informing one another, what its needs are and what is expected of it. Rest and digest vs fight or flight, played out over years can really tell a story of what your tissues are trying to deal with. Seems like when a massive signal gets sent to an organism “stress” war trauma insulting baby formula etc the biochemistry and nervous system are so pissed off it takes more than just good nutrition to inform the organs to chill out. Like when you’re in stress mode your digestive organs are literally squeezing the blood out of themselves to provide energy to the muscles. This shapes personality, and then informers our culture.

@Corngold true Chad. Cool reference

@eduardo-crispino didn’t majority latino men vote trump XD what is real life rn bro. This is gonna flip a culture on its head bro

Aren't you claiming to be a poet. I'm not.

@random its a good one to watch fully in evening mostly for entertainment / fascination and maybe more idk yet. hes a great explorer the moon mysteries one was wild https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU84ckD1AcA#t=34s

Energy and structure are interdependent at every level. Besides the usual Canon of ML thought. I would recommend reading Paul Cockshott: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44676165-how-the-world-works @ThinPicking Pretty much right. Jeff Bezos has done more to develop and organize the real productive forces than any college campus Leftoid. [image: 1747431498763-screenshot-2025-05-16-at-17-38-04-quote-by-karl-marx-communism-is-for-us-not-a-state-of-affairs-whic...www.goodreads.com_.png]

https://www.celebheights.com/s/Donald-Trump-126.html

Ivan Illich . Important works 1970 - Illich, Ivan - Deschooling Society 1970 - Illich, Ivan - The Church, Change and Development 1970 - Illich, Ivan; Toynbee, Arnold; Goodman, Paul - The Great Ideas Today 1971 - Illich, Ivan - Celebration of Awareness 1972 - Illich, Ivan (foreword); Hancock, Rose Mary (translator) - Letters from the Desert 1973 - Illich, Ivan - Tools for Conviviality 1974 - Illich, Ivan - Energy and Equity 1975 - Illich, Ivan - Medical Nemesis - The Expropriation of Health 1978 - Bradshaw, John S.; Illich, Ivan - Doctors on Trial 1978 - Illich, Ivan - The Right to Useful Unemployment 1978 - Illich, Ivan - Toward a History of Needs 1980 - Bracher, Karl D.; Illich, Ivan - Der Mensch und seine Sprache 1982 - Illich, Ivan - Gender 1982 - Illich, Ivan - Im Weinberg des Textes 1986 - Illich, Ivan - H2O and the Waters of Forgetfulness 1987 - Illich, Ivan et al. - Disabling Professions 1988 - Illich, Ivan - ABC - The Alphabetization of the Popular Mind 1991 - Illich, Ivan et al. - Was macht den Menschen krank - 18 kritische Analysen 1996 - Illich, Ivan - Klarstellungen 2002 - Illich, Ivan; Hoinacki, Lee; Mitcham, Carl - The Challenges of Ivan Illich 2011 - Illich, Ivan; Cayley, David - Ivan Illich in Conversation 2012 - Illich, Ivan - In the Mirror of the Past 2018 - Illich, Ivan - Shadow Work . . . Videos Ivan Illich - Medical Nemesis: The Expropriation of Health https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAO7_9qACIs Ivan Illich on Water and the History of the Senses - 1984 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrtO8kPdlRg . . . Other Texts https://www.untergrund-blättle.ch/gesellschaft/panorama/technisierte-hoelle-ivan-illich-corona-krise-7875.html

Cheating with a quote from a /pamphlet/. The conflict in nature between different kinds of organism has been popularly expressed in phrases like “struggle for existence” and “survival of the fittest.” Yet few people realize that mutual cooperation between different kinds of organisms—symbiosis—is just as important, and that the “fittest” may be the one that most helps another to survive. Whether intentional or not, Trager’s description of the “fittest” is not merely a scientific judgment made by an eminent biologist; it is also an ethical judgment similar to the one Kropotkin derived from his own work as a naturalist and his ideals as an anarchist. Trager emphasized that the “nearly perfect” integration of “symbiotic microorganisms into the economy of the host … has lead to the hypothesis that certain intracellular organelles might have been originally independent microorganisms.” Accordingly, the chloroplasts that are responsible for photosynthetic activity in plants with eukaryotic, or nucleated, cells are discrete structures that replicate by division, have their own distinctive DNA very similar to that of circular bacteria, synthesize their own proteins, and are bounded by two-unit membranes. Much the same is true of the eukaryotic cell’s “powerhouse,” its mitochondria. The eukaryotic cells are the morphological units of all complex forms of animal and plant life. The Protista and fungi also share these well-nucleated cell structures. Eucaryotes are aerobic and include clearly formed subunits, or organelles. By contrast, the prokaryotes lack nuclei; they are anaerobic, less specialized than the eucaryotics, and they constitute the evolutionary predecessors of the eucaryotics. In fact, they are the only life forms that could have survived and flourished in the early earth’s atmosphere, with its mere traces of free oxygen. It is now widely accepted that the eukaryotic cells consist of highly functional symbiotic arrangements of procaryotes that have become totally interdependent with other constituents. Eucaryotic flagella derive from anaerobic spirochetes; mitochondria, from prokaryotic bacteria that were capable of respiration as well as fermentation; and plant chloroplasts from “blue-green algae,” which have recently been reclassified as cyanobacteria. The theory, now almost a biological convention, holds that phagocytic ancestors of what were to become eucaryotes absorbed (without digesting) certain spirochetes, protomitochondria, and, in the case of photosynthetic cells, coccoid cyanobacteria and chloroxybacteria. Existing phyla of multicellular aerobic life forms thus had their origins in a symbiotic process that integrated a variety of microorganisms into what we can reasonably be called a colonial organism, the eukaryotic cell. Mutualism, not predation, seems to have been the guiding principle for the evolution of the highly complex aerobic life forms that are common today. Obvious extensions to cooperation between life forms in the society, producing complexification, differentiation, the opportunity for recreation, et c. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-sociobiology-or-social-ecology

Excellent, thanks. Fascinating development. @Rah1woot said in My thoughts on Le Great Reset: But computers aren't real anyways. All computers are Danny Roddy actually. Remote Roddy. I won't use the magic words to bring the heat on but that would definitely bring to mind connections between yi long ma's companies and a certain US government research organization lol