Milk is goyslop
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@lykos Estrogen masculines.
Not everything is one absolute forever.
Estrogen is not inherently bad.
It is necessary.
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@gg12 said in Milk is goyslop:
Milk is the most accessible form of calcium which many of us have been deprived of.
Accessible yes, but not more than broccoli. See how Ca is bound to phytates to understand / see the real availability.
Moreover, we have to take into account the ratio P/Ca ...
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@LucH brocoli has very high oxalates if anything the calcium in it it binds to the oxalates and excreted
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I don't answer any longer to 2 forumers on this forum. No need to explain why.
It doesn't mean I agree or disagree with what has been posted.
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idk bro I love drinking all the milks
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@Milk-Destroyer it taste good, very addictive
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@lykos gotta admit they were good. Well done
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@lykos Murdoch Murdoch style peat :0
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@lykos Exactly. I'm more into stewed southern greens w vinegar and sugar etc., cooked spinach, or other cooked veggies. Brassica is hit or miss.
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@LucH no offense, LucH but I guessed your account was just a French ai bot.
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@Corngold all the rabbits post are straight out of chatjewpt
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@heyman i am jeffrey epstein
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The thing I don't get is why the antisemite picks "Epstein" as a username
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@EPSTEIN lol this guy is so retarded its actually charming
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He's gone, obviously, and while amusing, I do think his point is valid to a degree and could have been made with more tact.
I say this because I am coming off of high milk consumption, which had its pros and cons. The pros were that it enabled me to gain some much needed weight and strength back. And I think it strengthened my teeth. I wish I could get raw, but I can't. It's not available where I am.
I went from 2-3l a day down to 500ml now. The con was that it messed up electrolyte balance, basically rendering both dietary and supplemental magnesium useless, which I needed more than calcium for another condition I've been dealing with. Probably the same for copper. Combined with D3, I believe it gave me hypercalcemia.
Edit: Oh, and I was taking high dose K2, but I don't think it mattered. There was simply way too much calcium.
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@cookielemons Only 2 minerals are used in bone mineralization: calcium or phosphorus. As metabolism decreases, bone mineralization via phosphorus increases. For a brief correlation: older people have a higher phosphorus to calcium ratio in the bones than young people (who have higher calcium in the bones), and older people also have more bone fractures than young people. For the amount of phosphorus naturally occuring in the diet, it's actually pretty hard to balance it on a 1:1 parity with calcium, which is a way more important balance than with magnesium.
High dietary calcium does not cause a problem, you urinate out excess. PTH causes all kinds of problems with calcium metabolism, tho. PTH raises when dietary calcium is low, and this forces calcium rich tissues to dump calcium into the blood, and for calcium uptake everywhere. It's an emergency response and redistribution by the body because of how vital calcium is for metabolism and the heart. If dietary calcium is not present, supplemental vitamin D can place higher demand on calcium, which will raise PTH to get it, and this cause the afformentioned problems.
This is not Peat's crazy ideas he just made up. I can't remember the Japanese researcher, but he got a nobel prize for his research on calcium metabolism. Peat referenced his work.
Peat is on the ball with calcium metabolism.
While it's totally possible to be so low in magnesium, and metabolism be so retarded, you could possibly cause problems, it's possible you just weren't eating magnesium rich foods. Kidney stones are actually created by elevated PTH -- this is paradoxically caused by low dietary calcium.
Toying with mineral balances is mostly what it sounds like: playing wackamole -- because minerals can never be regulated effectively until thyroid is addequate. the body doesn't feel the presence of a high calcium food and go "oh no, need more magnesium." Storage, utilization, and/or discarding of nutrients, is a constant automatic process. Either the metabolism is functioning to do this, or it's retarded. hand-selecting the nutrients to attempt to bypass this has little basis in reality as far as I understand it.
Sodium and calcium are the only minerals you really have to conciously consume in accute weigh-able amounts, the rest come from a nutrient dense diet. They function like a chemical, directly impacting physiological processes. Sodium turns off aldosterone, a vasoconstricting hormone. Calcium lowers PTH, a calcium leaching hormone. Both of these are stress hormones.
Between coffee, milk, OJ, oysters, and liver, you should hit your other mineral intakes decently well.
