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    • samsonS Offline
      samson @alfredoolivas
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      @alfredoolivas at 5 11 glucosamine + chondroitin did nothing for me, maybe helped me keep .5 inch evening height. not work taking those horse pills imo. why such low protein? ur trying to twinkmax?

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      • alfredoolivasA Offline
        alfredoolivas @samson
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        @samson the appetite supression from the current stack is insane. whatever it is, its working.

        yes, i am twink maxxing.

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        • KilgoreK Offline
          Kilgore
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          So why tren?

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          • engineerE Offline
            engineer @Kilgore
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            @Kilgore this is because he is a super mega steroid nonresponder, you wouldn't believe what didn't deliver many gains in the past

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            • alfredoolivasA Offline
              alfredoolivas @Kilgore
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              @Kilgore My intuition says that nuking my androstane steroids with estrane and pregnane steroids will be the cornucopia of health

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              • sunsunsunS Offline
                sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                @alfredoolivas mayhaps u will explain the meaning of this??? estrane pregnane adrostane ? wut??

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                • alfredoolivasA Offline
                  alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                  @sunsunsun "mayhaps" XDXD

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                  • sunsunsunS Offline
                    sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                    @alfredoolivas but why u think androstane avoidance is le good

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                    • alfredoolivasA Offline
                      alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                      @sunsunsun intuition😉

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                      • sunsunsunS Offline
                        sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
                        last edited by

                        @alfredoolivas ❤

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                        • alfredoolivasA Offline
                          alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                          @sunsunsun god bless you sushi

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                          • samsonS Offline
                            samson @alfredoolivas
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                            @alfredoolivas have you gone super low BF before? in my experience, doing more out there protocols can work really well (I lost 15lbs in just over a month doing honey diet) but its not very sustainable.

                            plus it really gets in the way of having a normal life...

                            Low fat + soft calorie tracking + moderate cardio has been the most sustainable low stress weight loss diet I've done. Aint broke=dont fix

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                            • alfredoolivasA Offline
                              alfredoolivas @samson
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                              @samson yes and I did that type of diet last year and it worked but it wasn't as effective

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                                sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                                https://doi.org/10.1042/cs0600457

                                found the study referencing the study suggesting tren reduces both muscle synthesis as well as breakdown but reduces breakdown more ∴ it is anabolic to muscle

                                also says something about glucocorticoids

                                but main part of study says muscle put on with dianabol is different than normal muscle (i think) in that it is more contractile tissue and less water but im lazily reading it rn

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                                • alfredoolivasA Offline
                                  alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                                  @sunsunsun Great find sushi

                                  I think it was reffering to this study

                                  It used a HED of 70mg a week for an 80kg man, which is a very low dose. They measured protein synthesis by measuring the concentration of RNA in muscle, which usually increases during AAS administration, but fell during trenbolone treatment. The tren rats had less amino acids in their muscle, indicating less muscle breakdown and more nitrogen per kg of bodyweights and normal organ sizes (actually less as a percent of bodyweight) it's interesting. to see its' unique effects

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                                  • engineerE Offline
                                    engineer @alfredoolivas
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                                    unfortunately it looks like if you want to lose fat not super slowly, you need to endure some FAO

                                    https://substack.com/home/post/p-189515524

                                    the trick is, though, to limit FAO to short periods like at night or between meals during the day in order to not rely on cortisol and instead just stored glycogen and fat

                                    this seems to be working for me super well

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                                      alfredoolivas
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                                      😨 😨 😨 😨 😨 😨 😨 😨
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                                      • sunsunsunS Offline
                                        sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                                        @alfredoolivas do you think the phopshate deficient muscle that dbol puts on in that study is basically meaning that while gaining lean massthat ca:p ratio being lower is actually ok? on some bodybuilder diets phosphate can be 7.5g per day and i dont know if it is ok to have calcium come up even near that high.

                                        i guess the only way to know is to do blood work to see serum levels

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                                          alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                                          @sunsunsun possible that dianabol, 17a estradiol or 17a methyl 1 testosterone or any of it's metabolites are diuretics... authors say it could be pottasium counteracting the phosphorus
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                                          • alfredoolivasA Offline
                                            alfredoolivas
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                                            Week 2: Down from 81kg to 79.5kg

                                            Did my first hill climb. I don't even know how long it took but it was a hard climb. at least 15 minutes. felt like 30.
                                            Gonna see how I recover. Durian Rider says hill climbs are the best exercise to lose fat, and I believe it kinda, because as soon as I got home after biking 40km including the hill climb, I felt really hot when I are dried mangoes.

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