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    Has anyone tried 3beta-hydroxy-pregna-1(10),4,9(11)-trien-2-one before?

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    • jamezb46J Offline
      jamezb46 @alfredoolivas
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      @alfredoolivas The original query was about modifying testosterone to introduce a 12-13 double bond so as to turn the methyl group at 18 to a hydrogen, thus making what I called "18-nor-testosterone" which would be similar to the well known 19-nor-testosterone a.k.a nandrolone.

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        alfredoolivas @jamezb46
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        @jamezb46 I remember 18 nor T, but were we talking about a different steroid? Wasn't 3beta-hydroxy-pregna-1(10),4,9(11)-trien-2-one mentioned by Patrick Arnold in a phone call to Ray Peat?

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        • alfredoolivasA Offline
          alfredoolivas
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          It's actually real LOL
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promegestone

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            alfredoolivas @alfredoolivas
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            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimegestone

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              alfredoolivas @alfredoolivas
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                alfredoolivas
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                WHAT A SLUTTY STRUCTURE.
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                  alfredoolivas @alfredoolivas
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                  I call this Illuminatione, not dropspirenone
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                    LetTheRedeemed
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                    what it do?

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                      lobotomize @LetTheRedeemed
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                      @LetTheRedeemed its goon material scene between beta cuck hydroxy impregnating a 1 out of trien

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                      • alfredoolivasA Offline
                        alfredoolivas @LetTheRedeemed
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                        @LetTheRedeemed On a call with Patrick Arnold, he mentioned that an analogue of "pregnenbolone" is a suicide inhibitor the of the mineralocorticoid receptor due to it's estrane core and extreme unsaturation, along with the keto group on position 2.

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