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    Is T a requirement with DHT?

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      ChroncStresChris
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      So here I am, little insecure soyboy, needing help restoring my hormones after finasteride wrecked me 8 years ago. I finally got my hands on some Andractim. I've been using that in hopes of getting rid of my gyno, erectile dysfunction, and weight gain.

      I've used it a handful of times already, in extremely small amounts. I noticed some good stuff one of the early times - some strength and endurance, muscle 'fullness' and 'hardness', nothing really on my johnson, sadly. I read that a pea-size amount is the standard dose, so ive been deliberately trying to use less, just to be safe. For context, im an overweight 28 y/o male recovering from chronic stress and extreme health problems. I've had a few pretty bad days since starting andractim, wondering if it's related or not. I had bad stress today at a volunteer event, wondering if its related. Could be completely unrelated.

      But, I remember reading somewhere recently, maybe on that god forsaken other forum, that you have to take testosterone with your DHT dose, you can't just apply or take DHT without it. This has stuck in my mind and I've tried to google this, but it's a little hard to find relevant results.

      Does anyone know about this? Is Testosterone with your DHT dose a requirement? Am I using my therapy incorrectly? I'm just a humble, stupid soyboy with man boobs trying to recover from PFS.

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        16characterstwas
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        I don't think so

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          CrumblingCookie @ChroncStresChris
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          @ChroncStresChris https://bioenergetic.forum/post/61323

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            alfredoolivas @ChroncStresChris
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            @ChroncStresChris I personally never felt the need to supplement with it nor I have I experimented with the combination, but I have always been running pregnenenolone when running strong androgens other than T solo and felt great.

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              ChroncStresChris @16characterstwas
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              @16characterstwas This was really valuable, thank you.

              I wondered this as well, like my chronic stress / hypothyroid / endotoxin condition energetically or structurally limited me from experiencing DHT the way a euthyroid or a healthy person would.

              This has happened with a LOT of other supplements and interventions as well - like pregnenolone, DHEA, TTFD, taurine, testosterone, androsterone, 6keto, coconut oil, milk, and more

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                wester130 @ChroncStresChris
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                @ChroncStresChris yes generally speaking, because DHT dries you out and may actually reduce tesosterone

                testosterone is "wet" and is needed with dht, dht is "dry"

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