i get insomnia onset if i overdo them, im trying 2 a day now

@cs3000 heat production is good for the most of the time, but still rt3 is building up, ill figure it out sonner or later, being patient is hard and take slow aproach to thing plus memory is short, this cortisol
Supps iv been there multiple times and had same conclusion lol

@cs3000 i was on 50mcg of thyroxine and some of porcine NDT for t3 for over a month and barely felt improvements, only small progress, i bumped now to 75 because it was low in the blood test, will see if anything happens now, and if nothing positive will happen ill drop to 50mcg back and reassess.

@cs3000 my temps are typically good, around 36.9C maybe besides low first thing in the morning, but the problem is a low pulse amongst few other symptoms, i do have moments where pulse raise to around 70 beats, I'm warm most of the time probably due to regular meals and decent carb intake.

@cs3000 What im sure about, is that no cortisol-lowering supps and slow incremental dosing with thyroid, i only take 1/5th of the b complex pill and lets see what will happened.

Last night i didn't get low blood sugar so it's a good start already.

There must be something else, maybe zinc deficiency because i responded to zinc supplementation great before until it caused the onset of insomnia, and had to stop it.

what else I'm certain is that slow improvements are huge improvements honestly.

But cortisol supplementation didn't help me no.

@Mulloch94 well its not like i feel effect of t3 to a great extend either, it does help a bit with symptoms but with low total t4 all the symptoms intensify quickly, well im sure thet when i hop on too many so called metabolic supps, which in relatively healthy person they would be beneficial im sure, they cause me low cortisol symptoms. One good example is when i was doing magnesium baths, they were great initially but over time they caused me severe low blood sugar symptoms at night. I stopped gelatine and turine and inosine now and lets see if the pulse will increase during the day etc

@FitnessMikey

bone broth, inosine that was recently what I reintroduced, they are strongly affecting cortisol.

he patient will complain of weakness and episodes of prostration, frequently feeling quite unwell without being able to pinpoint the cause. Episodes of dizziness, sometimes cold sweats, caused by the blood sugar becoming abnormally low, are not uncommon. Often, an odd internal shivering is described. Aches and pains of a rheumatic nature are other frequent complaints. The patient often complains of the cold, and is likely to be cold to the touch. The subject does not feel well, and may look ill, with dark rings under the eyes, and a general pallor. There are likely to be digestive problems, with excessive wind and bloating, and bowel disturbances. The menstrual cycle may be disturbed, or absent and libido low. Depression and anxiety may also be a feature. Some of the symptoms complained of by patients with M.E. == Myalgic Encephalitis == are very similar, leading to the well-grounded suspicion that M.E. is associated with low adrenal reserve. Certainly, frequent minor illnesses are common, with an overlong course of quite minor infections, which may also have an unusually severe effect on the patient.

Low thyroid function has some of these features, and it may be difficult to distinguish one from the other; In fact it should not be necessary because, as I pointed out above, as the two are often together, so too must the treatment overlap and be designed to relieve both.

The complications of treating hypothyroid or under active thyroid patients, is that their consequent poor adrenal reserve may become suddenly obvious, as soon as the thyroid is treated. The thyroid supplementation may, at worst, precipitate the adrenal problem; but what usually happens, is that the thyroid replacement may either not apparently work at all, or the patient may have thyroid over dosage symptoms on quite a low level of replacement. Hence, where low adrenal reserve is suspected, it is possibly dangerous, and certainly ill advised, to treat the patient without supplementation of the adrenals, in the manner explained further below.

ok so this is me, I always do the same shit, hop on some strong cortisol "pro metabolic" stuff and it fuck with me. bold text is whats happening to me, these shivers happened few times in past months and its very unusual and new experience to me, its clearly cortisol related.

there is buch of resources that talk about cortisol importance in thyroid function.

I wonder what I am missing still, making thyroxine work is such a pain in the ass.

It could be some specific vitamin deficiency, but my diet is on point.

It could be too quick with dose increase too looking back, but that has changed now, and it's still painful to make it work.

My friend is taking it and i would
Like to get to know what is the main mechanism and potentially offer natural alternative.