@sushi_is_cringe Basically correct.

Not really into anarchistic theory. All of the technology you see in the video was the result of fully organized, militarist, states. The former can live on the peripheries of the latter only as a kind of fungus.

So like Trotsky, you just end up becoming a whore of fascism in actual fact.

@Nomanarch

That’s fine, but call it what it is: a leap of faith, not a triumph of reason.

Will do, have been. Have a nice day.

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/william-blake.shtml

@Nomanarch

It is not designed “to work” in the world but to clarify the limits of what can be claimed. That this strikes you as “nonfunctional” only shows how deeply the conflation of epistemic modesty with political disempowerment has sunk in.

Yes. I am not really interested in anything that doesn't work, almost by definition. Unlike you I do not recognize any cavities and divisions in my reality. One cannot hold any kind of garbage idea, even if it calls itself "transcendental", without poisoning the metabolism. Philosophy is politics is art is nutrition is me is you is mitochondria and biology and the citric acid cycle. It's all one and the same. Nothing comes at the expense of something else. A formal logic for "epistemic modesty" does not exist in its own right but is something that informs everything else here.

nothing outside the given is justified. Everything else is projection.

Exactly right. And yet it is only projection that always produces the next set of givens -- the atomic bomb. Without projections of this kind there is no life.

You accuse me effectively of being too much involved in my own life. I might accuse you of the opposite, obviously it comes across in the way you say "The critique" instead of "your critique", etc, and never appreciate "TS" as being a position you concretely happen to hold instead of something floating in the aether. The difference is that I can use materialism to improve my actual life, whereas I cannot use solipsism to do anything. The same goes for you. As an actual living animal, I only care about the former. With my advanced political technology I happen to know that you too are an actual living animal. To deny yourself this will produce only pain and confusion. Which is a Bad Thing.

@Nomanarch

it simply suspends judgment about what, if anything, exists beyond consciousness. Weapons work, physics works, and materialism functions

Because the future is unconscious, yet physics always explains it as it self-develops, this statement is a contradiction. Physics REACHES INTO the unconsciousness that is the future itself.

utility justify belief in an unexperienced substratum.

You can say this in writing, but you will simultaneously never jump from the top of a tall building in life, because even though you haven't experienced the fall yet, you do actually know it will come unconditionally. And if you did do it, given some light assumptions, I can say with certainty that you would fall and die.

I'm not misunderstanding your view. I'm just pointing out that it's worthless, restrictive, and masturbatory. In the same way that "physics works" even though there is no real reason to have faith in it, this view is designed to "not work". It's basically the ideology of the self-interested cancer or yeast cell -- both "valid" forms of life, but objectively lower than the human being, which is structured as the collaboration of energetic differentiated cells. Do you think that each individual cell in the human body is solipsistic? I think all of this becomes very clear as a worker in an organization and gets murkier the less you do in life.

@Nomanarch

Not relevant to the position

That would make sense if you think that formal abstract logic outside of concrete human life itself is possible, which is at the same time the position that produces solipsism. If we instead see perspectives as flowing through actual real people (or things), who can not always be taken at their word, it is quite relevant. But I can be happy you're mostly doing fine in either case. Rather than being a broken soldier, you just haven't been to war yet. Still in The Academy.

When you fall back to a "coherent dream" or "field of consciousness" to explain the apparent consistency (i.e., recurrence into the future from the present and past) with which experience occurs, all of this is really a coded, weak way of describing exactly what materialists know as "reality". You make mere acknowledgements, but unlike materialists, you make no assertions. And again, this is all well and good until you have to develop new weapons technology to destroy the enemy before they destroy you. While you might circle back and encapsulate everything that you've ALREADY seen, including the future-predictions of your past self, as part of a "field of consciousness", you will never be able to seriously work with the future in each instant. Since you have not experienced it yet, you can say exactly nothing about it. Thus it is an inherently reactionary, past-oriented pattern of thought. The religious monotheistic concept of "faith" is exactly this faith in the thing outside which produces the future: it is a perspective that takes great energy, a certain configuration of the brain, and it is something that can waver with the constitution and spirit. There is no formal justification for faith, and yet, it is impossible to be alive without. The present configures the future. The Pilot Wave Theory demolishes the Copenhagen Interpretation. Solipsism does not offer any explanation for why even though materialism is never actually justified in each individual instant, it has always won in the past.

Ray Peat's quote on the topic: https://bioenergetic.life/clips/3aec8?t=5347&c=100

@Nomanarch What is the content of your life? Do you do meaningful Work with/for other people? Any major life issues? I'm trying to see something.

@NoeticJuice Just because this guy correctly uses philosophical terminology doesn't mean his theory holds any water for actual living animals. Try being a solipsist while at the front, in a factory, working to feed your family. You will Fail, get Hurt, feel Pain, and Die. Put your hand on a hot stovetop and keep it there, just because "all experience is actually in the mind". You will lose your hand. Of course your real, objective nervous system will stop you if it's working correctly. While you're at it, you should also quit Peating, because all of those dietary choices are also irrelevant when all experience is in the mind alone. Just will yourself into feeling good, bro. Go to Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Or you'll have some kind of confused mentality where you just encode the perspective of objective materialism in new words, like a "dream", as a kind of emotional safeguard. Much like a basement dweller's obsession with his fundamentally superior "IQ" (or "race", for some), the social purpose of solipsism is to grant defensibility to useless dysfunction. In this way the lumpenproletariat and financial bourgeoisie is united in stifling the development of reality.

It's not incurable, but it is anti-life.

@Nomanarch If you admit that solipsism has no utility for developing the future (i.e., for the life process), then I think that you agree with me and we're done here.

Ballistics does not refute solipsism; it merely shows that the dream is internally coherent.

Like all "solipsists" you basically have to go to coded objective materialism whenever you have to do anything in the real world or reason about it. "The dream, singular". With one dreamer who is necessarily not you. Every time. It's the basic life function.

Again. Solipsism isn't logically wrong. On paper it is completely correct. It's a myopic, constipated fixation on one aspect of living that impoverishes life. Its logical rectitude is exactly what produces its real infertility. Much like "nihilism" it is a perspective refuted by life itself.

I find that simple coffee gets my bowels moving. Seems like a fine quick fix if it works for you.