Posts made by Gentile

I am kind of confused when it comes to the subject of DNA methylation and I don't know weather having increased DNA methylation is good or bad. One indicator of superior health and genetics is a higher birth weight.

This can be seen when cats that are placed on nourishing raw diets produce offspring with higher birth weights whereas cats that are placed on sub optimal cooked meat diets produce offspring that are much smaller and have lower birth weights. (View my 1st post for more info about this)

This relationships can also be seen in Guinea pigs and chickens were healthier organisms produce offspring with higher birth weights. The same happens in humans, where prenatal toxins such as alcohol lower birth weights and low birth weights in humans are associated with health issues.

However Ray Peat made some interesting quotes about DNA methylation: "Things that decrease mitochondrial energy production ... increase DNA methylation" (Source : Stem cells, cell culture, and culture: Issues in regeneration) . This is a bit confusing as some studies show that an increase in DNA methylation increases birth weights which is a sign of a healthy organism.

So is increasing DNA methylation good or bad?

@Kvirion Thanks

I have seen this going around health spaces but there is this idea that washing your hands with anti bacterial soap and using hand sanitizer is bad for your gut.

Can somebody explain this.

@JulofEnoch

"Mothers could be on an industrialized diet, have ugly and malformed kids, get back onto a traditional diet, and then have healthy and well-developed kids" can you provide a source for this.

@brad The book is called "Pottenger's Cats: A Study in Nutrition by Francis Marion Pottenger Jr"

There is apparently a second edition of this book but I have not read that yet ( https://www.amazon.com/Francis-Marion-Pottenger-Pottengers-Cats/dp/B00N4ELKWG/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1707164282&refinements=p_27%3AFrancis+Marion+Pottenger+Jr.&s=books&sr=1-2&text=Francis+Marion+Pottenger+Jr.).

You can find the 1st book as a PDF for free online

@Andreas There are a lot of Peaters that believe they can improve their genes by peating. Thats not how it works. If your mother was fed a sub optimal diet then you will suffer the consequences.

I am sure many on you have heard of the Pottengers cat study. Basically in this study there were two groups of cats. 1 group of cats were fed raw milk, raw meat and cod liver oil. The other group was feed cooked meat, pasteurized milk and cod liver oil.

The raw group were healthy, had amazing bone development and facial structures that were exactly the same and produce healthy offspring when fed the same diet.

The cooked group produced ugly offspring wither extremely different bone structures. They were extremely unhealthy, the mothers had high rates of miscarriages and a bunch of other health problems. Also the kittens died very early and the mothers would even eat their own kittens after giving birth.

But the thing is when offspring from the cooked group were fed a nourishing raw diet it took them 5 generations to reverse the degeneration. Even scarier is that when a cat fed a raw diet is placed on the cooked diet for as little as 6 months, then switched back to a raw diet, they still produced inferior offspring and it takes generations to reverse the degeneration.

I know Ray Peat didn't believe in genes but he is wrong and this is proof. (For more info read the book)