What I ended up doing: https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/470/testosterone-worldwide/12?_=1732586762298

For the 2021-2023 NHANES data, in order to remove TRT users, I screened out those with testosterone over 600 who also had LH below reference range. Apparently TRT lowers LH and FSH to near zero. I also removed some data that was probably in error.

So average testosterone in 2021-2023 was 451 ng/dl - no major difference from 2015-2016's average of 459 ng/dl.

2021-2023:
20-24: 536
25-29: 464
30-34: 476
35-39: 440

2015-2016:
20-24: 535
25-29: 556
30-34: 461
35-39: 466

2011-2012
20-24: 468
25-29: 438
30-34: 435
35-39: 392

2003-2004
20-24: 673
25-29: 537
30-34: 541
35-39: 589

I'm working on finding the average testosterone for the USA from CDC data to put on my website, as discussed here: https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/470/testosterone-worldwide

The CDC has recently published the 2021-2023 testosterone data. But I'm sure there's a lot of TRT users in there now, which will skew the average testosterone. Unfortunately the CDC hasn't included info on TRT use in this dataset so I will have to figure out which datapoints are on TRT myself. Does anyone know how to screen the data to remove TRT users? Don;t they have abnormal LH levels or something like that? I have access to a lot of hormone measurements, all of these: https://wwwn.cdc.gov/Nchs/Nhanes/2021-2022/TST_L.htm

Thanks!

Good info, thanks! I believe dehydroascorbic acid is more potent than ascorbic acid too?

I also feel best when I eat a lot of fat. Definitely trust your instincts on it.

@BroJonas I don't know much about the guy himself. I just noticed this phenomenon that happens when you pause him in mid-motion. Try it with the Ann Vo videos if you don't like Goatis, it happens with her too.

When you pause a video of a person, you'll usually catch them at a bad moment, looking weird.

I used to think this was just normal, but I've discovered that when you pause Goatis, his face almost always looks calm and normal. Goatis gives off a calm grounded vibe, while the vegans or bodybuilders that he's critiquing generally give a manic vibe in comparison. Just try pausing his videos, the person being critiqued will look strange and Goatis will usually look normal, at any given frame you happen to pause.

I notice this primal diet girl, Ann Vo, has the same grounded calm and inability to be paused at a bad moment that Goatis has. youtube.com/watch?v=PFIxzFzFu34

I think many people today are constantly flickering through manic micro-expressions and this makes the person come off as unstable, which is very unfortunate for socializing.

You could judge a lifestyle, diet, or mentality by whether it produces grounded calm, and this could be measured by pausing a video of the person to try to catch a bad moment!

@RealNeat Great info, thank you!

@BioEclectic Thanks for the tip about re-mineralizing.

@wester130 Not that I know of. I don't remember running across very many studies measuring DHT unfortunately. Although I would predict you could dig up enough studies to get a sense of DHT levels in the US in the past compared to currently.

what kind of mouse are you?