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@Appa Well said. Very much lines up with my experience and I couldn't help but notice the similarities with SSRI's on mood, behavior, sleep, appetite.

It turns you into a zombie. Cypro made me sleep, hungry, and foggy. Never liked it.

Now I have these unwanted side effects long term... that I'm thinking of correcting with a serotonin agonist.

Any recommendations for an agonist?

@Orindere ground beef, eggs, milk, oj, apple juice, sometimes liver and shrimp, sardines, collagen, kefir, chicken sometimes, honey, and sometimes potatoes

I have tried a host of mineral supplements, its hard to tell if they help.

@mostlylurking I think it's a lot harder to become vitamin A toxic than many believe, but this is only true if you're eating enough calories with the various nutrients that one needs. I mean, I've eaten liver for 2 weeks straight before my body no longer craved it. Maybe 2 oz. a day. This is after going an extended period w/o having it for a fast.

I just now started to feel fully satiated, so I'm back to 4 oz. serving per week (I technically eat a "bite" per day). Anyway, no signs of toxicity because I was low on Vit A and B vitamins. If I pushed it now, since I've been satiated then I would probably see negative effects sooner rather than later.

@skywxlker said in why do b vitamins make me hungry for beef?:

@mostlylurking I sincerely appreciate your thorough responses and for leading me in the right direction. I will make sure to check out those resources!

anyway, yes. I am now only taking 300mg of thiamine HCl as it has become too strong. It drops my blood sugar too fast and reintroduces excess unwantrd hunger. Since I am still quite satiated from the meal before. Two weeks ago I took 5-7 grams for about 3 days and over that time span I have reduced the amount of thiamine gradually due to the large drops in blood glucose. I now take about 50mg spread throughout the day.

Are you wanting to restore your body's function while simultaneously losing weight? i don't understand. How can you still be "satiated from the meal before" and also be hungry? Satiated is the opposite of Hungry, yes?

I might try a different form of magnesium. When my metabolism is better, I have noticed this issue with magnesium. I believe I am retaining it.

What is hypermagnesemia?

What is hypomagnesemia?

Also, last night I reduced the B5 significantly and increased niacinamide and biotin quite significantly to 1g and 45mg respectively. The results were astounding. I felt the best I have ever felt with chronic fatigue syndrome and long covid. I felt normal for the first time in years. By no means near healthy but it was an incredible feeling.

The problem with wildly altering dosages of multiple things at once is that it is impossible to tell which did what.

I was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome about 25 years ago and suffered from it for many years. The symptoms resolved completely via high dose thiamine hcl.
(and magnesium, a little riboflavin, a little niacinamide, some progesterone, some pregnenolone, avoidance of all pufa....)

I have tried this combo of b3 and b7 not long ago. alongside thiamine ttfd. however I believe the intial megadoses of B1 helped me breakthrough bottlenecks. I also feel that B3 and B7 together are working synergystically. Because I have tried one or the other recently, without the same effects.

I also slept 7 hours straight for the first time. I always always pee at night a few times.

You were right about B5 I believe. It did make me feel worse. I'm also taking 3mg of folinic acid and 40mg B6 spread throughout the day. And a few minerals in very small doses. like selenium, manganese, molydenum, zinc, coppper. I believe these two are having positive effects. Although I am I need of testing to assess mineral status.

You should get your minerals tested so you don't get yourself into trouble. I developed high manganese simply by consuming maple syrup.
https://labs.selfdecode.com/blog/manganese-toxicity/

I am taking meticulous notes about everything I consume and feel.

Food for thought in case this anecdote would be of interest to you.

Sorry, but from where I'm sitting, it appears that you are throwing gobs of stuff at a wall to see what sticks. Get yourself tested to find possible mineral deficiencies/toxicities. My manganese toxicity appeared out of nowhere, and I sure miss that maple syrup....

Some of your symptoms sound like mine (not all), I've also had the poisoned feeling many times.. I have mild crohns disease, according to a colonoscopy back in 2017.

One thing that has helped me when I get real fatigued and body pains is taking bupropion, and the inflammation went down quite a bit, no more poisoned feeling and an increase in energy (probably because it increases norepinephrine). But I don't like being on pharmaceuticals and it wasn't curing the issue, just mitigating some of it.

I usually go on it for 30-60 days and then go back off until things get bad again.