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    Thoughts about my diet ? Do I have potential to achieve PUFA deficiency in a few years?

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      dan.dominic @Ray Peat Fanboy
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      @Ray-Peat-Fanboy Yea Potatoes are great I just haven’t seen anyone eating 5lb per day. But really that’s how most people used to eat for thousands of years. Like 1 kilo of starch as the base of their diet.

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        Milk Destroyer @Ray Peat Fanboy
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        @Ray-Peat-Fanboy I tried a similar approach to this diet a few months back and ran into a few problems. Do you mind if I ask you questions regarding it?

        1. Does your skin feel dry at all? Especially the palms of your hands?

        2. How often do you buy potatoes and how do you store them? Do you often find lots of eyes and growths on them?

        3. Do you put anything else on the potato? Or do you just eat them boiled?

        4. Do you often feel euphoric? Would you say your mood is good on this diet?

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          Androsclerozat @Ray Peat Fanboy
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          @Ray-Peat-Fanboy I did this diet for a month and I had good bowel movements but man I felt so bored and unmotivated
          Never coming back
          Starch kills spice of life

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            BioEclectic @Ray Peat Fanboy
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            @Ray-Peat-Fanboy said in Thoughts about my diet ? Do I have potential to achieve PUFA deficiency in a few years?:

            @BioEclectic

            Yes I always eat the potatoes dry after removing the water. I remember reading that adding vinegar/acetic acid while boiling the potatoes can help to remove solanine. https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/a-method-to-remove-solanine-fryom-potatoes.44421/

            I haven't read about coffee improving the digestion of milk yet. I should start adding some coffee powder to milk, maybe instant coffee. What is the mechanism behind coffee improving milk digestion if they are mixed together ?

            About Travis posts on milk homogenisation , I havent seen those actually, but im trying to search for those posts on RPF now 🙂

            I don't recall the mechanism behind coffee and milk digestion but had heard it referenced plenty of times in the other forum. It may take quite a bit of coffee though maybe 2/1 or 3/1 coffee/milk but i'll guess that any amount may help at least some folks. Instant may make it easier. Had also heard the benefits of combining are a two way street with milk binding some of the less helpful tannins in coffee etc.

            i'll try to find Travis's homogenized milk persorption comments and post them here if i do.

            Edit: found a couple

            • https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-travis-corner.21611/page-67#post-356171
            • https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-travis-corner.21611/page-79#post-372858

            I see some of our current members were in the above linked threads @Amazoniac

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              Ray Peat Fanboy @Milk Destroyer
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              I got inspired to eat like this from this thread by @haidut https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-people-with-the-worlds-healthiest-hearts-eat-a-72-carbohydrate-diet.28862/

              I buy potatoes once a day or once every other day. I live close to a grocery store so its quite easy and convenient.

              I have had no problems with dry skin.

              The potatoes I eat has never had eyes on them luckily.

              I put lots of salt on the boiled potatoes , sometimes some herbal spices or black pepper. Occasionaly maybe some apple cider vinegar.

              Yes my mood is very good on this diet. I would say the high amounts of potassium and carbohydrate has a very noticeable anti stress effect. I even feel physically more relaxed after those big potato meals , like no muscle tension at all.

              Recently I have added the routine of taking 100 -300 mg thiamine HCL on empty stomach 30 minutes before eating the potatoes, and I think this has helped with converting the carbs to CO2.

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                Ray Peat Fanboy @Androsclerozat
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                @Androsclerozat

                I see. For me I have found that starch gives me the most satiety. I need a high starch diet , otherwise i'll get too hungry. ☺

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                  Ray Peat Fanboy @BioEclectic
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                  @BioEclectic

                  I see , thats intresting. So have I understood this correct , low fat milk is NOT homogenised while whole 3 % milk is homogenised?

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                    Ray Peat Fanboy @dan.dominic
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                    @dan-dominic

                    Yes , I do believe a high starch diet was very common in how people used to eat in the past.

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                      BioEclectic @Ray Peat Fanboy
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                      @Ray-Peat-Fanboy

                      It's all homogenized btw.

                      It's that skim and 1% milk have less of the micronized [homogenized] milk fat that's theoretically persorbed undigested and deposited raw into the bloodstream. My explanation is way too oversimplified obviously, there's much more allegedly taking place here.

                      Homogenized 4% whole milk would theoretically do us more damage simply due to having more milk fat to begin with.

                      None of this is to scare people away from milk. Keep drinking it folks, find the right type and quantity that most agrees with you. A2, goat, regular, 4oz at a time or 8oz's, find your sweetspot, keep experimenting, it doesn't have to be liters a day either. Some may need to work on their digestive system first of course...

                      I've both switched to 1% & skim and lowered my overall milk intake a bit, i found it much too calming in a mind numbing sort of way. It doesn't seem to happen with cheese though.

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                        Androsclerozat @Ray Peat Fanboy
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                        @Ray-Peat-Fanboy yeah that's because sugar boosts metabolism
                        Peat said that starch granules remain undigested, perforate intestinal walls and goes into the brain creating inflammation.
                        Life is different without starches, more emotions and life seems more vivid

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                          dan.dominic @Androsclerozat
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                          @Androsclerozat How do you know its not the extra sugar that you replace the starch with thats enhancing your life, rather than the removal of the starch specifically?

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                            Androsclerozat @dan.dominic
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                            @dan-dominic
                            experimentation
                            There is always a spectrum of vividness in life
                            Even a small portion of starch can disturb it, but I understand that one small meal every 3 days is fine
                            The more I ate starches the less vivid life was and the less I cared to see my friend
                            I tried high sugar low starch diet and I was still not interested in watching people's reactions and if I was to play a basketball match, I would get competitive, while on sugar I would be carefree.
                            Starch drives status and ego
                            You must feel hyped/content over nothing

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                              BioEclectic @Androsclerozat
                              last edited by BioEclectic

                              @Androsclerozat said in Thoughts about my diet ? Do I have potential to achieve PUFA deficiency in a few years?:

                              @Ray-Peat-Fanboy yeah that's because sugar boosts metabolism
                              Peat said that starch granules remain undigested, perforate intestinal walls and goes into the brain creating inflammation.
                              Life is different without starches, more emotions and life seems more vivid

                              I had interpreted Ray Peat's discussions as it being "raw starch" granules. Starch that either wasn't cooked well enough or wasn't prepped correctly using methods like nixtamalization etc. I do know that a sick intestine may persorb even more and deposit it almost anywhere including the spinal fluid.

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                                Milk Destroyer @Androsclerozat
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                                @Androsclerozat Sorry to draw away from the original thread but may I ask what you eat, personally?
                                Do you consume much fat in your diet? If you are low fat what do you eat? My intention in asking these questions is trying to draw conclusions from multiple accounts of what can work for people here and experiment with applying it myself.

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                                  Androsclerozat @Milk Destroyer
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                                  @Milk-Destroyer I know that I am against starches but I eat a meal every 3 days to keep good sleep quality. I get tired of sugar sometimes.
                                  My diet consists of milk 1.5% fat 2-3 liters, ground beef 150g and sugar 300g or maple syrup. Sometimes I add dark chocolate without soy lecithin 50g or orange juice fresh 500ml. If I skip the meat, I drink more milk.

                                  Above I was talking about starch persorption, but it's safe if you keep lots of bowels movements and not exaggerating in meal portions. It's pretty hard to digest them perfectly tho. Sugar will always be superior.

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