A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.
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So this great guy has unfortunately liver problems. As a byproduct, he has T-levels north of 1500 somewhere. He is 31 and looks like a teenager. He is also vibrant and handsome. His engaging behavior and broad interest are the opposite of a trapped rat. He might have had liver problems for a very long time(duration unknown). I cannot help to think that high androgen production plays a vital part in his distinction.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe Is it just me or was there no indication of actually feeling sick? It is a serious question. Is he actually sick??
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@bio3nergetic He said he is going to take more tests. It is overwhelmingly likely that he is sick, but he might just be extraordinarily healthy. He looks and acts very healthy though. He looks like a poster boy for good health.
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I watched this awhile ago and if I remember the only thing that they found off is that his hCG was high which could indicate a real health problem. And his SHBG was high but that could just be genetic rather than a liver issue.
I agree that overall he looks like a bastion of health and all those weird experts and doctors who think high testosterone is bad for you would take a beating from this example.
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@Crypt-Keeper I agree with you completely. Testosterone is undervalued by so-called experts. Our culture associates high testosterone with sickly over-trained bodybuilders. Also, studies tend to undervalue T-levels in health and well-being. As people with higher T-levels in the public often work manual labour which is tiresome for the body and soul.
If you manage to have high T-levels without much stressful exposure, then you will become in supreme health. -
That is what I am driving at. Asking the questions, how does he actually feel? Because to me he looks, acts fine and has active interests of interesting things. I am thinking he may be falling into the trap of modern medicine. You know the "im not sick but 'tested' positive so stay away from for a few weeks" clown medicine.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.:
@bio3nergetic He said he is going to take more tests. It is overwhelmingly likely that he is sick, but he might just be extraordinarily healthy. He looks and acts very healthy though. He looks like a poster boy for good health.
If a person doesn't have symptoms, they're not sick, tests don't prove anything as long as the person doesn't have symptoms, and they're alive. He seems to have healthy skin and hair, in terms of voice, and certain behaviors, he doesn't look extraordinarily healthy, he seems partly effeminate in some of his tone and gestures.
he's partly similar to how Frank Tufano was, Frank Tufano had, or still has, homo or bi tendencies
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@lisan-al-gaib He looks nothing like Frank Tufano, LOL. I Googled him and Tufano looks like he is on the Jeffrey Dahmer spectrum. SpyroPyro looks way healthier in every way.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.:
@lisan-al-gaib He looks nothing like Frank Tufano, LOL. I Googled him and Tufano looks like he is on the Jeffrey Dahmer spectrum. SpyroPyro looks way healthier in every way.
I was referring to the similarity between the effeminate tones and gestures of SpyroPyro, and Frank tufano a few years ago, not the appearance. To be effeminate is not to be in extraordinary health
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@Crypt-Keeper he said his liver enzymes have been elevated for years I think
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you equate freedom of movement and having fun and expressing oneself with being feminine. ok, it's feminine. but it's not unhealthy.
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@noodlecat59 said in A super interesting case of high testosterone levels.:
you equate freedom of movement and having fun and expressing oneself with being feminine. ok, it's feminine. but it's not unhealthy.
I dont. Nothing wrong with that.
He has certain ton of voice that are effeminate, which are more common in non-hetero men. They're not just childish, or just not very masculine. To be effeminate, and or to be non-hetero as a man is not to be in optimal health, the other said "extraordinarily healthy".
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He looks good, but there is something weird going on if his test is that high (and it looks like it is) while his voice sounds like that
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He is effeminate, but that is normal in men with extraordinarily high IQs. I think if you are above a certain threshold in intelligence, you will fail to bond with your peers which will have certain consequences. This was the case with the one guy who beat me on the Abel test (math test) at our high school. He looked and behaved very much like this guy. He still comes across as extremely healthy although he might have some developmental deviance due to childhood loneliness. Just look at the energy levels, the bone structure, the body composition, and the varied interests.
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@goodtosell Yeah. I notice that he is lean, but has some definition/ muscle mass, without doing any weightlifting. Someone mentioned that in the comments.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe being able to bond with peers is a sign of high intelligence. being unable to bond with peers is autism. and implying autism is peak intelligence is a giga-cope . Intelligence isn't bare IQ.
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@noodlecat59
- You do not understand the meaning of the word cope.
- No one has mentioned anything related to peak intelligence.
- People without autism can also have a difficult time bonding in the classroom if they have an IQ of 145 and the second smartest kid in class has an IQ of 112.
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1.) i am referring to an identity which i am fairly projecting onto you where the culture you a part of that thinks autism is based. this is a fair projection from my perspective because of the stuff you post.
2.) xD
3.)IQ is a cope, a top tier cope.t. 130iq as verified by a 15min facebook test
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Who knows what his DHT levels are and the levels of other androgens. He mentioned not being able to grow much facial hair. People in this thread are talking about his voice being high pitch, which I think is a sign of low DHT. I don't think testosterone itself masculinizes the voice, though of course in a healthy body, would convert into DHT. I think a simple explanation is that he has high testosterone levels that aren't being converted into high levels of DHT.
A lot of people's idea of steroid hyper masculinity is not going to be caused by just high testosterone alone. Masculine sharp strong bone structure, a deep voice, facial hair, are things I'd correlate with high DHT, which can rise when injecting test. -
I've looked on subreddits for people transitioning and they always go for the one hormone approach. Some FTM use topical DHT for masculinization, specifically growing clit size and more facial hair, but others appear to be scared of DHT because of hair loss, so they take DHT blockers with their testosterone, which of course isn't going to give them full biological male masculinization as men during puberty aren't on DHT blockers.
On the topic of FTM, obviously they're going to have to be very heavy duty to turn a woman into a passable "man", so basically they need to take roid head levels of testosterone and DHT, or else they're just going to look like a really low T feminine man, not like Henry Cavill or Chris Hemsworth. Of course there's concerns with safety dosing biological women with high levels of T and DHT, but this just means that biological women are going to transform into undesirable soy boys, not anything close to the pinnacle of masculinity.
