New Poll: You, the People Decide the Fate of a User
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There's been some unrest recently about me banning a user, DoomerZoomer, who technically did not violate the rules. Said user was asked not to use a racial slur, but no moderation action was taken. Later he made personal attacks against me and besmirched Ray Peat and the ideas underpinning this forum. He also mentioned Brad, our admin, being a Jew which I saw in a negative light due to DZ's use of racial slurs.
At that point, based on over a decade of forum moderation and classroom management from middle school on up, I banned that user. Reasoning: reputation of the forum; inability to respond in a mature manner; lack of forum etiquette (proper posting, composition, etc).
IOW a "shit-poster"
He then made an alt account and posted several links rather than make a topic for discussion, which would have been allowed despite being anti-Peat.
Should said user be reinstated? Do you, the users at large want such a user here? Have your say by leaving a yes or no. Please refrain from other responses until the "poll" is complete. to keep the thread orderly and make counting easier.
It is 0100 EST in the USA right now and I will lock this topic and count the votes at midnight, morning of the 26th, about 2 days.
I wanted to do a real poll but it isn't posting properly, sorry about that.
"Bear...Seek...Seek...Lest."
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@NotShanalotte said in New Poll: You, the People Decide the Fate of a User:
There's been some unrest recently about me banning a user who technically did not violate the rules. Said user was asked not to use a racial slur, but no moderation action was taken. Later he made personal attacks against me and besmirched Ray Peat and the ideas underpinning
this forum.At that point, based on over a decade of forum moderation and classroom management from middle school on up, I banned that user. Reasoning: reputation of the forum; inability to respond in a mature manner; lack of forum etiquette (proper posting, composition, etc).
IOW a "shit-poster"
He then made an alt account and posted several links rather than make a topic for discussion.
Should said user be reinstated? Do you, the users at large want such a user here? Have your say by leaving a yes or no. Please refrain from other responses until the "poll" is complete. to keep the thread orderly and make counting easier.
It is 0100 EST in the USA right now and I will lock this topic and count the votes at midnight, morning of the 26th, about 2 days.
I wanted to do a real poll but it isn't posting properly, sorry about that.
Super bad post, it's not the users who decide who should be banned according to their personal preference, actually Brad has said his rules, people use/don't use the forum as they please, and make suggestions to Brad.
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doomer zoomer is annoying but harmless. he probably needs friends so he should come back for another chance.
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Have your say by leaving a yes or no. Please refrain from other responses until the "poll" is complete. to keep the thread orderly and make counting easier.
No
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Remember to please leave only a yes or no response. I intend to open discussion after this poll ends, as that also gives me time to confer with the other mods. Big update post here:
For now, DoomerZoomer has been reinstated, but I'd like more responses due to the influx of "the rules say" and "free speech" posters along with claims of bias.
His first post back includes the free speech claim which was:
where I suggested he should make a topic in The Junkyard to discuss the anti-Peat matters and wished him luck.As for the free speech claim in general:
Please refer to the following screenshot from Brad for why I made my original decision:
To me, racist terms and belligerence do constitute degrading the experience of others. I experienced this directly in the form of personal attacks. To me, the association of racism and bioenergetic ideals also degrades this forum for everyone.
My vote does not count despite this statement.
Again, I am conferring with the other mods for future such situations. We will let you know if we escalate it to Brad.
The count so far to reinstate, which may guide future decision making, is:
2 Yes
1 No
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@noodlecat59 said in New Poll: You, the People Decide the Fate of a User:
doomer zoomer is annoying but harmless. he probably needs friends so he should come back for another chance.
Just the next angry little boy. Potentially entertaining.
@doomerzoomer3 keep your Alans on or be abused. Make a thread constructively disputing "Oils in Context" and "Unsaturated Vegetable Oils: Toxic".
Also head over to https://bioenergetic.forum/post/17935 and explain in (great) detail why 'jews' make you mad.
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@ThinPicking stereotype research indicates stereotypes are accurate and the jewish stereotype revolves around sleaziness, grift and subversion
there's plenty more work that contests ray peat's BS besides the reviews i linked though you have yet to begin reading that material or you wouldn't cite bottom barrel pseudoscience like 'oils in context'. the one review i gave you discusses human RCTs whilst your articles expect you to believe his absurd claims which are based on animal studies at best. you probably believed him too when he said he grew an inch living in the mountains, or when he said that he learned french in a weekend by supplementing thiamine
the intelligence research debunks https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/intelligence.shtml
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Seed oils.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7iXPgh4ZeEDa Jooos.
Jewish group profiling could work if they were a homogenized culture. But, they are as varied in their political alignments as Christians. Orthodox anti-zionists and pacifists, secular jewish liberals who fall all over the map from anti-west-anti-zionism, to anti-west-pro-zionism, to pro-west-pro-zionism; I've met neonazi Jews on telegram, and one of the most popular proto-nazi anti-Anglo voices in post-WW1 Germany was a Jew (that had continental Jewish support), for which the German anti-Semites decried as fundamentally Semitic extremism for failing to see the eternal brotherhood of the Germans and Anglos (haha, they should've listened to their Jewish nazis instead). 80,000 Jews fought for Germany in WW1. 80-100,000 fought for Germany in WW2, with 5-10,000 Jewish Nazi party members.Are there likely Jewish white collar elites powerbrokering the west away? Do some Jews have an explicit anti-west bias? Are there some jewcy ugly facts like the Jewish mob running NYC in the 20th century? Sure, and I can point out as many culpable "christian"/"aryan"/etc westerners exploiting Western countries anyway they can, as well.
All in all it becomes a moot point when you find out a a Jew did a thing and was successful.
I know a ton of messianic (christian) Jews, who are very pro-westerner, and still start businesses or websites... go figure.
Getting some conservative white Christian folks I know, to do something productive with their wealth and multiply it, is like pulling teeth - ah, cultural inclinations... I wonder who else has cultural inclinations...
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I requested you constructively dispute those pieces for a footing to try, in context. And generate a conversation. You may arrive at another six, a series of conditional statements about other micronutrients, behaviour and a desire to walk off on a hunch. Instead you're whinging like an unloved and maladapted child. Thank you. And still. Whenever you're ready.
'Seed Oil Sophistry' is probably worthy of a knock. Sure enough, you'll find the single issue types covering a foothold to sell something. Or worse. Bioenergetics is a touch more wholistic than that. And I'm not saying they're 'bad', they're just tired, and petulant. Like you. And me in a few days, if I stop minding my behaviour towards myself.
And obviously your attempt at ze joos is hilarious. Personally I'd want an ethnic descriptor to entertain it, not a religious one. You do sound stunted in IQ, potentially prone to sleaze, grift, and subversion. I wish you the best of luck in rising above it. Chappo. Stick around.
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Yes, reinstate.
Stop abusing authority and acting like Charlie, it’s not that serious.
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90% of US Jews vote democrat.
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@RawGoatMilk88 idk the numbers but the majority of single white women vote democrat
doomerzoomer's threshold for not liking or accepting a thing (as well as most anti-semites, or anti other things like anti-white, too) is only according to whatever preconceived bias they already have. I don't disagree that a majority of Jews are liberal, simply that a majority of Jews are also not in a linear or cohesive cabal.
Clearly, conservative white men will not make a threshold (if they're 1% reasonable) of eliminating white girls from their dating pool.
Zionist conspiracy theory to force global circumcision - ok lets argue...
but for whatever retarded reason twatter-males exclaim Brad is Jewish, as if it's an a priori bad thing - "a Jew supports a free speech platform built around Ray Peat's legacy! Conspiracy!" -
@NotShanalotte I knew this was about to be an issue for this site. You can't have an open forum for Bioenergtics & have all the racist peaters too. I think maybe have an option to 'quarantine' a user or something, or 'mute' a user.
If you can't do such a delicate thing, definitely ban him; this forum is a better place to welcome people to Ray Peat then twitter, which is more disjointed anyways as a platform, & is more open for open racism anyways.
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it's RCTs you cunt
ironically Kyle Mamounis was put in the cuck shed of the blog author because he refused to debate publicly and removed his own twitter comments when he got schooledjews are a major threat because they're clever yet nasty. don't give a shit about potential exceptions
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@ThinPicking no it's on you, i provide RCTs you share fairy tales. i know ray peat well enough to know that he seldom if ever provides real empirical evidence of his claims and yet he always acts as if he's doing modern science. he claims avocado's are toxic based on a study on avocado oil in rats where only a liver marker was measured. nevermind the body of evidence demonstrating protection against liver disease in humans. he didn't do this just one time. his articles are non stop pseudo-science of this kind. animal studies, in vitro studies, made up stories ('i grew an inch', 'william blake could count the nerve endings in his temple better than an electron microscope', ...), misinterpretations of stories ('large hypothalami in taxi drivers means their work made them grow that'), ... he even did craploads of mechanistic science, ironically. my IQ was measured and would allow me into mensa. everything you write is arrogant and does nothing but beat around the bush
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@doomerzoomer3 said in New Poll: You, the People Decide the Fate of a User:
you cunt
@doomerzoomer3 said in New Poll: You, the People Decide the Fate of a User:
clever yet nasty
@doomerzoomer3 said in New Poll: You, the People Decide the Fate of a User:
would allow me into mensa
Attention is all you need little boy.
Read Revelation.
And don't worry, I'm not afraid of avocados.
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I do know the numbers, 90% of US Jews vote democrat, Jews have spearheaded all degenerate and subversive movements (lgbtq, feminism) and industries (usury banking, porn) in the west for hundreds of years.
You should read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and measure it against history, you’ll be shocked if objective in the slightest.
Haven’t read what you’ve said in here because I can’t be bothered, but I’m assuming by your username that you’re a Christian fundamentalist of some sort?
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@RawGoatMilk88 you didn’t read my last comment directly toward you that you replied to, or my other comments in the thread?
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I only read the part directed at me, are you a Christian?
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@Lovesickhs18 I'm not a mod anymore so your option is only to block such users now. You can see the quality of discourse in the rest of this thread, but this is what the admin wants, free speech. Though I recall him wanting high quality discourse, which seems impossible this way.
