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    BioEclectic @OliverCloasov
    last edited by BioEclectic Jul 13, 2024, 2:03 AM Jul 12, 2024, 9:10 PM

    @OliverCloasov
    Or maybe Garret is giving something away when he starts babbling that occult stuff.

    Or he's simply another charlatan trying to make a dishonest buck and parrots whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear.

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      Peatful @OliverCloasov
      last edited by Jul 12, 2024, 10:24 PM

      @OliverCloasov said in New "Mission" of RPF:

      There's a new thread there slamming Smith for reposting an X post about transmutation of sexual energy into high productivity, and it's all getting slammed as witchcraft and demons lol

      I just looked

      The tweet was about being a man…..stopping porn
      No?

      I think Smith is a turd
      An absolutely broken dude

      However
      I support that message

      Just because the verb transmute was used
      Goodness
      I think they meant change
      As in: Change to not consume porn

      What has happened to that forum….
      Is this just the nature of what information via social media does to people?

      Rhetorical

      The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

      SD

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        OliverCloasov @BioEclectic
        last edited by Jul 13, 2024, 1:15 PM

        @BioEclectic nah transmutation is only 'occult' in the sense that it's not an exoteric modality and can give power to the individual to make productive changes to their lives, as opposed to dedicating that same energy to 'getting off', which is the common exoteric modality.
        As for Smith looking to expand his audience with such ideas, yeah that's likely on point. Perhaps a little bit of an indirect jab towards Charlie and his crusaders too lol

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          OliverCloasov @Peatful
          last edited by Jul 13, 2024, 1:16 PM

          @Peatful Yup I agree 💯

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            bio3nergetic
            last edited by bio3nergetic Jul 13, 2024, 3:05 PM Jul 13, 2024, 3:02 PM

            My only concern, and the one thing that actually vexes me - since I really do not care about their bickering, their views or ideas, from either side - is that the name RAY PEAT be removed in association with the old forum. It is absolutely and utterly wrong that his namesake IS the forum. Ridiculous at this point.

            By the way, Charlie knows this. He is a typical religious zealot who is absolutely blind to his hypocrisies and contradictions. His motives now are power and money. He knows it. He knew it when he miserably argued against me back in 2016 on cleaning up the forum, as I've stated before.

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              bot-mod @bio3nergetic
              last edited by Jul 13, 2024, 4:37 PM

              @bio3nergetic said in New "Mission" of RPF:

              vexes me

              Drop it. For your sake. No really.

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                bio3nergetic @bot-mod
                last edited by Jul 13, 2024, 8:58 PM

                @ThinPicking lol I appreciate the concern haha. Obviously I was being somewhat hyperbolic. I don't lose sleep over it. However, I would love for a cease and desist of Ray's name for his forum name.

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                  Jaffe
                  last edited by Jul 13, 2024, 9:51 PM

                  The religious zealotry really drags down the forum.

                  It’s fine to discuss, sure, but the constant purity tests are tiring.

                  I don’t need or care to know how someone views god. I need and care to know if a dietary intervention works or not.

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                    bot-mod @Jaffe
                    last edited by bot-mod Jul 17, 2024, 6:49 PM Jul 17, 2024, 6:45 PM

                    @Jaffe said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                    The religious zealotry really drags down the forum.

                    But this is important, his fave has the Mandate of Heaven or something. And apparently his prophetic projections are 'Glorious'.

                    wut.jpg

                    @Jaffe said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                    I don’t need or care to know how someone views god. I need and care to know if a dietary intervention works or not.

                    I reckon these things are inextricably linked. But it may be more an underlying thought form and feeling than a linguistical exercise. Maybe more a matter of heart than mind. Gleaning it from someone's writing might involve some inference and metaphor. I've no idea really, this isn't my day job.

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                      bot-mod @bio3nergetic
                      last edited by Jul 17, 2024, 6:47 PM

                      @bio3nergetic 💪

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                        VehmicJuryman @bot-mod
                        last edited by Jul 20, 2024, 9:36 AM

                        This thread argues that the high methionine in the standard Ray Peat foods explains the negative symptoms better than vitamin A. It makes sense, many of the "poison A" believers talk about their negative experiences with dairy, which has the worst methionine:glycine ratio of any food.

                        https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/vitamin-a-or-methionine-adverse-reaction.50563/

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                          bot-mod @VehmicJuryman
                          last edited by Jul 20, 2024, 9:43 PM

                          You've muddled your language VJ. You mean 'high vitamin A foods', not 'standard Ray Peat foods'.

                          Thank you for sharing it. Because this is supportive of my inner generalisation, that something's causing these people to struggle with the fruits of nature. And they simply picked a particular micronutrient because an engineer made up a conspiracy theory, wrote a book and tortured some mice.

                          Neither 'poison A' nor a methionine/glycine ratio explains their difficulty relative to those who don't have one.

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                            Jaffe @VehmicJuryman
                            last edited by Jaffe Jul 21, 2024, 1:19 AM Jul 21, 2024, 1:17 AM

                            @VehmicJuryman

                            I could buy that if muscle meat consumption wasn’t a primary focus of a low-A diet lol. They’re getting high methionine while low vit-A

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                              VehmicJuryman @Jaffe
                              last edited by Jul 21, 2024, 3:25 AM

                              @Jaffe Milk has a worse ratio of methionine to glycine than any muscle meat. Milk and dairy products actually have more methionine than glycine, while all muscle meats have more glycine than methionine (though still not at a high enough ratio to be optimal). Maybe the difference is significant enough to account for the anecdotes from the anti-vitamin A followers? Here is a comparison of milk to filet mignon (aka tenderloin) steak, one of the cuts Charlie says he eats:

                              https://tools.myfooddata.com/nutrition-comparison/170641-171265/200cals-200cals/1-1

                              Does anyone know if the any of anti-vitamin A followers took enough glycine? According to Chris Masterjohn the daily minimum should be 10g. That's 30g of collagen or gelatin daily, which is quite a lot, like 8 tablespoons of pure collagen powder.

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                                bot-mod @VehmicJuryman
                                last edited by bot-mod Jul 21, 2024, 11:11 AM Jul 21, 2024, 11:02 AM

                                @VehmicJuryman said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                According to Chris Masterjohn the daily minimum should be 10g.

                                I doubt this is a glycine thing. But would they even listen VJ.

                                "Chris Masterjohn is obviously suffering from vitamin A toxicity

                                As we know PHDs and doctors are not immune to being sick and diseased" - Evan Torrens

                                Simultaneously the funniest and most profound 7 months of my internet career.

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                                  Mallard6146
                                  last edited by Jul 21, 2024, 2:46 PM

                                  The talk of Trump being anointed is too much.

                                  The Godfather of Operation Warp Speed is going to save everyone he didn’t successfully euthanize with the poison shot.

                                  If a Western citizen still believes these clowns aren’t on the same team (not ours), and still gets fired up about voting and politicians, they fit firmly in the mid-wit and below IQ category (despite delusions of their intelligence).

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                                    bot-mod @Mallard6146
                                    last edited by Jul 21, 2024, 3:40 PM

                                    @Mallard6146 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                    The talk of Trump being anointed is too much.

                                    cringe.jpg

                                    And there I was thinking God has a hand on everything and everyone. Except free will, or the outsourcing of it.

                                    @Mallard6146 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                    The Godfather of Operation Warp Speed is going to save everyone he didn’t successfully euthanize with the poison shot.

                                    god forbid, busy high-trust people should bear the light and be bright. Especially if they're 'liberal'.

                                    Personally I wouldn't even vax vax 'persuasion' perpetrators. Just re-educate them with mandatory thyroid, sugar and military grade, clockwork orange kindness. (Humour, ofc.)

                                    @Mallard6146 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                    If a Western citizen still believes these clowns aren’t on the same team (not ours), and still gets fired up about voting and politicians, they fit firmly in the mid-wit and below IQ category (despite delusions of their intelligence).

                                    I see your point, I understand. And agree no one should be getting fired up about selecting janitors. But like or lump, they are on our team. They just need coherent instructions.

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                                      Mallard6146 @bot-mod
                                      last edited by Mallard6146 Jul 21, 2024, 3:49 PM Jul 21, 2024, 3:48 PM

                                      @ThinPicking

                                      The problem is not the lack of instructions, but who they are receiving the instructions from.

                                      Janitors is a gracious label. I believe “exterminators” is more fitting.

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                                        bot-mod @Mallard6146
                                        last edited by Jul 21, 2024, 3:50 PM

                                        Yep. But there's more of you. Coherence is a tall order. But there's more of you.

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                                          bot-mod @Mallard6146
                                          last edited by Jul 21, 2024, 3:51 PM

                                          @Mallard6146 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                          Janitors is a gracious label. I believe “exterminators” is more fitting.

                                          The new chief exterminator here is looking forward to his super special, special relationship with trump. No doubt.

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