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    yerrag @GreekDemiGod
    last edited by yerrag Sep 16, 2024, 2:29 PM Sep 16, 2024, 1:45 PM

    @GreekDemiGod

    I was quick to subscribe to a 1 serving of beef liver per week regimen when I became an RPF member on 2016. No ifs and buts.

    Last year, after an eye exam to renew my drivers license, I was told I no longer needed glasses to drive.

    I did not expect this to happen. But I think having enough retinol in my diet and having enough CO2 in my system, as part of having good mitochondrial metabolism, made it easier to benefit from having retinol in my diet thru beef liver.

    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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      Janelle525
      last edited by Sep 16, 2024, 1:51 PM

      The need for distance lenses has more to do with how much outdoor time you have and not staring at a screen for hours at a time. No matter your diet or supps you can regain distance vision through this. So we need to be careful ascribing vision acuity to vitamin A.

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        yerrag @Janelle525
        last edited by Sep 16, 2024, 2:29 PM

        @Janelle525 said in Share positive experiences with eating liver:

        The need for distance lenses has more to do with how much outdoor time you have and not staring at a screen for hours at a time. No matter your diet or supps you can regain distance vision through this. So we need to be careful ascribing vision acuity to vitamin A.

        You're the expert.

        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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          LetTheRedeemed @yerrag
          last edited by Sep 16, 2024, 6:42 PM

          @yerrag would you say you substantially increased viewing distance since your introduction of Peaty foods?

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            Sunniva @yerrag
            last edited by Sep 16, 2024, 7:00 PM

            @yerrag I'm glad you mention this. I have gone many years with no worsening of my eyeglass rx- it even got slightly better. I was eating liver once or twice a month. I have not had any now for awhile- not sure why, maybe life got busy, I am the only one in my family that will eat it. I was just thinking I should start eating some again, and if my next eye exam has a change in my eyeglass rx, I most definitely will.

            "You're changing your past every time you learn something because you become a different organism" Ray Peat

            "Everything is changing thru time, whether it's a word, organism, thing. The world around it changes, and so its relationships change"Ray Peat

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              Peatful
              last edited by Sep 16, 2024, 7:05 PM

              I used it judiciously and like a supplement
              To supplement my diet

              I cut off small capsule size pieces
              Froze them
              Then took them ~three times a week

              Then
              I had my fill
              And have never felt the need to go back

              I think it is a wonderful way to meet micronutrient needs
              The only way actually
              No synthetic supplements for me anymore ever

              Always try liverwurst if repulsed by swallowing raw frozen liver

              One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

              -DB

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                Peatful @Janelle525
                last edited by Sep 16, 2024, 7:06 PM

                @Janelle525 said in Share positive experiences with eating liver:

                The need for distance lenses has more to do with how much outdoor time you have and not staring at a screen for hours at a time. No matter your diet or supps you can regain distance vision through this. So we need to be careful ascribing vision acuity to vitamin A.

                Lol

                One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                -DB

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                  yerrag @LetTheRedeemed
                  last edited by yerrag Sep 16, 2024, 7:57 PM Sep 16, 2024, 7:38 PM

                  @LetTheRedeemed said in Share positive experiences with eating liver:

                  @yerrag would you say you substantially increased viewing distance since your introduction of Peaty foods?

                  That certainly was the case, but prior to my lifestyle change to eating liver once a week, I ditched my glasses because it was too difficult wearing bifocals and was hoping my eyesight would just improve because I was forcing my eyes to. So I was also having difficulty reading small type.

                  So I think ditching my glasses and eating liver both made my eyes see better correcting both my nearsightedness and the newly developed farsightedness of getting older.

                  n.b. My nearsightedness was uneven at 75 and 175 for the left and right eyes. I could still drive without glasses as my nearsightedness wasn't so bad.

                  Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                  engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                  wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                  the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                    yerrag @Sunniva
                    last edited by yerrag Sep 16, 2024, 8:10 PM Sep 16, 2024, 8:08 PM

                    @Sunniva said in Share positive experiences with eating liver:

                    @yerrag I'm glad you mention this. I have gone many years with no worsening of my eyeglass rx- it even got slightly better. I was eating liver once or twice a month. I have not had any now for awhile- not sure why, maybe life got busy, I am the only one in my family that will eat it. I was just thinking I should start eating some again, and if my next eye exam has a change in my eyeglass rx, I most definitely will.

                    I think the medical badmouthing of liver by doctors for supposedly being high on uric acid is responsible for a greater part of poor eyesight among the general population. Together with their preaching that carrots (beta-carotene) are good for eyesight. But beta-carotene is far less effective while being in with the falsely highly educated Ivy League Wannabe crowd, and pretty much all vitamin A supplements are made with beta-carotene.

                    Yet my sister, who sells and uses a popular brand of network marketing based supplements, takes beta carotene. And she is due for cataract surgery. It helps to know that the body has to have adequate B12 to convert beta-carotene to the real vitamin A retinol. Liver already has retinol.

                    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                      yerrag @Peatful
                      last edited by Sep 16, 2024, 8:11 PM

                      @Peatful said in Share positive experiences with eating liver:

                      I used it judiciously and like a supplement
                      To supplement my diet

                      I cut off small capsule size pieces
                      Froze them
                      Then took them ~three times a week

                      Then
                      I had my fill
                      And have never felt the need to go back

                      I think it is a wonderful way to meet micronutrient needs
                      The only way actually
                      No synthetic supplements for me anymore ever

                      Always try liverwurst if repulsed by swallowing raw frozen liver

                      Nice!

                      Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                        LetTheRedeemed @yerrag
                        last edited by Sep 16, 2024, 8:18 PM

                        @yerrag Sorry, I don't understand; the case was that you were indeed looking long distance more often?

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                          A Former User
                          last edited by Sep 16, 2024, 9:11 PM

                          My husband processes lambs and kids at home. We vacuum seal the whole livers and put them into the freezer immediately. These livers always taste sweet and good. At some times of year we run out of liver and buy some from neighboring farms that send their animals to small butchers/ slaughterhouses. These farms have good practices but I often find myself not able to eat the livers, the taste is so bad. One last year made me gag and my daughter just kept asking how it could taste so bad compared to our livers. With beef livers, the butcher will often cut them into strips which is the worst! My friend told me a story about the slaughterhouse calling him 4 days after he sent his lambs for slaughter to ask him about how he wanted the livers packaged. That means they didn't freeze them for 4 days. I think that the oxidation of liver is probably a large factor in what makes it taste bad and may make you feel bad. Putting it whole into the freezer immediately is crucial.

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                            yerrag @LetTheRedeemed
                            last edited by Sep 16, 2024, 10:03 PM

                            @LetTheRedeemed said in Share positive experiences with eating liver:

                            @yerrag Sorry, I don't understand; the case was that you were indeed looking long distance more often?

                            I was nearsighted since high school. At some point, I also became farsighted as it became difficult to read. I had to use bifocals for my condition.

                            I started eating liver once a week. 8 yrs later, I took an eye test and I realized I was no longer nearsighted.

                            Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                            engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                            wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                            the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                              LetTheRedeemed @yerrag
                              last edited by Sep 17, 2024, 12:34 AM

                              @yerrag oh wow. So you did NOT begin looking long distances at the same time you began consuming liver.

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                                yerrag @LetTheRedeemed
                                last edited by Sep 17, 2024, 12:42 AM

                                @LetTheRedeemed

                                Had done that before but never made inroads as I was still wearing glasses. Kinda like always on crutches and can't go far beyond baby steps.

                                This time I just ate liver and have enough CO2 from good metabolism as both were needed. But only realize this after I looked into it after the fact.

                                Wasn't aiming at all to improve my eyesight but it happened.

                                Serendipity, not genius.

                                Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                  LetTheRedeemed @yerrag
                                  last edited by Sep 17, 2024, 1:14 AM

                                  @yerrag so basically it’s the improved metabolism and vit A consumption, not looking long distances. the other poster assumed falsely about your eyesight improvement.

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                                    yerrag @LetTheRedeemed
                                    last edited by Sep 17, 2024, 2:47 AM

                                    @LetTheRedeemed I think she got it right but she had the wrong idea thinking eye exercises are more important than the nutrition aspect.

                                    I think both matters. I was doing Chinese eye exercises that I picked up from a Chinese magazine since high school. While it didn't get rid of my glasses, it still kept my nearsightedness from getting worse all these years. My grade of 75 left and 175 right managed to stay the same all these years. I know many whose eyesight kept deteriorating to 400+ grade.

                                    Of course, I can't blame her as she still believes in Vitamin A being toxic, but that's not something I would waste time debating about.

                                    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                      LetTheRedeemed @yerrag
                                      last edited by Sep 17, 2024, 12:02 PM

                                      @yerrag interesting, thanks for sharing

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                                        Janelle525
                                        last edited by Sep 18, 2024, 4:51 PM

                                        Not sure why people are laughing at my comment. It is well established in the scientific literature that staring at screens and early reading for kids causes nearsightedness. Eating liver is not necessary for vision acuity. If it was we'd have a cure ! (far from it, ate plenty of liver in my life and still needed glasses)

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                                          Peatful @Janelle525
                                          last edited by Sep 18, 2024, 5:15 PM

                                          @Janelle525

                                          I laughed that someone-
                                          presumably from the old RPF- felt the need to correct a rather benign comment-
                                          in support for the VA is toxic teaching
                                          and that one needs to “be careful”

                                          I hope that trend doesn’t root over here

                                          Ray’s ideas supported that forum for over a decade
                                          The toxic VA trend does not look sustainable

                                          One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                          -DB

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