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Ray Peat was a Stalinist

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    bot-mod @bk_
    last edited by Sep 26, 2024, 4:30 PM

    They also had no idea how to actually implement "communism". And limped on a legal system that could be described as consolidated or singular corporatism.

    The KGB operated its "circle of accountability" while fledgeling computer scientists daydreamed of and inched development effort toward a penultimate cybernetic solution. A development effort that appears to continue to this day.

    And here we are. In the age of "AI". Probably not a good idea to proceed without critique.

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      LetTheRedeemed @Fructose
      last edited by Sep 26, 2024, 7:07 PM

      @Fructose Cuty in the PFP warning.

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        LetTheRedeemed
        last edited by LetTheRedeemed Sep 26, 2024, 7:14 PM Sep 26, 2024, 7:13 PM

        @bk_ said in Ray Peat was a Stalinist:

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        I view Peat's take as endearingly skeptical of Western Imperialism.

        It's ironically trapped in a dialectic that I'd think he'd usually see thru. I think it didn't help that he was alive in time to see authentic ideologues flock to it (basically all the in-crowd of the West), only to be immediately coopted and undercut by the powerbrokers who used it... picture a Bernie Bro still distraught and confused about the Hillary Hijack -- Bernie's handlers may have been in on it from the beginning, unknown to well meaning starbucks baristas.

        I think he fell for the same populism trap as nazis, and subsequent neo-nazis. There was a whole lot of covert corruption of sincere people who were in the nazi and communist parties, but both sides saw the same problem (with their opposite solutions of course). If you read Marx describe the fallen state of western society, he shared the same concerns as reactionaries toward "progress" destroying poor peoples' stability.

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          BioEclectic @LetTheRedeemed
          last edited by BioEclectic Sep 27, 2024, 3:34 PM Sep 27, 2024, 2:53 PM

          @LetTheRedeemed said in Ray Peat was a Stalinist:

          @bk_ said in Ray Peat was a Stalinist only to be immediately coopted and undercut by the powerbrokers who used it... picture a Bernie Bro still distraught and confused about the Hillary Hijack -- Bernie's handlers may have been in on it from the beginning, unknown to well meaning starbucks baristas.

          Bernie Sanders was apparently in on the take, votes shepherded to Hillary Clinton. A slick NEO outreach to Progressives and other anti-fascist types.

          https://web.archive.org/web/20240810042517/https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pHLlTK1CV2K8HEnNaDD0CE2b5igEBQheyt25azSZ_Rw/mobilebasic

          But what also seems apparent, and imo, just enough voters were taken aback by these events and either stayed home or voted for Trump instead.

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            LetTheRedeemed @BioEclectic
            last edited by Sep 27, 2024, 7:17 PM

            @BioEclectic Solid points, but at this point it's almost cruel to true believers to call out their heroes (be it Sanders or Hitler); at this point I just wanna win hearts and minds and get caring people to collectively tune out of attempting to find the right policy, and instead become better people in their worlds.

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              WilliamBlake
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