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What peaty substance is closest to cannabis/CBD on mental and physical relaxation?

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    Sugar
    last edited by Feb 8, 2024, 1:23 AM

    I remember feeling properly relaxed with the right amount of CBD, not so much so THC, but I'm looking for something to guide with general relaxation at the house to lower stress and aid in meditation.

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      catharsis
      last edited by Feb 8, 2024, 2:12 AM

      Large amounts of sugar and salt can lend itself to being relaxing. Magnesium status is very important too. The ability to relax is definitely a function of energy state and nutritional status. If you're looking for a substance, cypro has given me similar effects.

      CBD might be a bit peaty as I have seen it having small antagonistic effects against some serotonin receptor subtypes and it lowering prolactin through the CB1/2 modulation. THC is definitely not peaty.

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        Logan
        last edited by Logan Feb 8, 2024, 6:18 PM Feb 8, 2024, 6:16 PM

        Bright incandescent light, high sugar intake, supplementing b-vitamins, low dose methylene blue, thyroid. Sometimes saturated fat can have a significant relaxing effect. Emptying the bowels with safe laxatives like magnesium can also have extremely relaxing effects. Vitamin C is known to decrease cortisol, would definitely help if you are deficient.

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          fucker @Sugar
          last edited by Feb 9, 2024, 6:52 PM

          @Sugar low dose DMT

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            onliest
            last edited by Feb 9, 2024, 6:55 PM

            cypro, mag, preg, progest, sugar, taurine, theanine

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              ATP @onliest
              last edited by Feb 9, 2024, 7:34 PM

              @onliest
              Yeah

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                irs
                last edited by Feb 9, 2024, 7:55 PM

                Perhaps ashwagandha? Not sure if its peaty or not but I take the shoden version of it and chills me out very much

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                  Sugar @onliest
                  last edited by Feb 9, 2024, 9:29 PM

                  @onliest thanks man.

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                    thyroidchor27
                    last edited by Oct 10, 2024, 1:51 PM

                    marijuana

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                      serotoninskeptic @Sugar
                      last edited by Oct 10, 2024, 8:20 PM

                      @Sugar cypro, magnesium and l-lysine

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                        wrl
                        last edited by Oct 10, 2024, 8:23 PM

                        Agmatine
                        CBG (legal natural cannabinoid)

                        Essential oils of:

                        • Lavender
                        • German chamomile
                        • Lemon
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                          A Former User @wrl
                          last edited by Oct 11, 2024, 2:07 AM

                          aspirin and baking soda

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                            Ecstatic_Hamster
                            last edited by Oct 11, 2024, 2:08 AM

                            I think cannabis is a Peaty substance or would be had Dr. Peat really studied the latest research. The endocannabinoid system is connected to the lymphatic system and connected to every single nerve and cell. I would go for real CBD or better yet CBDA and THC or THCA.

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                              thyroidchor27 @Ecstatic_Hamster
                              last edited by Oct 12, 2024, 4:01 AM

                              @Ecstatic_Hamster what ratio of cbd to thc do u use

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                                BaseBornPeater
                                last edited by BaseBornPeater Oct 27, 2024, 6:29 AM Oct 27, 2024, 6:21 AM

                                CO2. If you haven’t tried it, mix a bit of baking soda and vinegar in a milk jug or bottle with a wide mouth let it react then stick your nose in and take a deep breath. It helps if you tilt the container back as if you were drinking from it while you inhale. If you’re doing it properly, as you inhale it will have a similar sensation in your throat to drinking soda. Repeat with some breaks in between before adding more vinegar and baking soda. Instant, cheap and super relaxing.
                                It’s nice because there is a little ritual to it like smoking, takes a few minutes.
                                Also after the first bit of baking soda/vinegar is done producing CO2 it is best to add more vinegar first before adding more baking soda, more milage that way.

                                Eat More Soup

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                                  BaseBornPeater
                                  last edited by Oct 27, 2024, 7:06 AM

                                  check out this tea

                                  So yummy with ice cream or in a milkshake.
                                  “Cha qi” is a nice feeling. I wouldn’t be drinking it all day everyday like coffee though, peat did not really recommend tea.
                                  good read

                                  Eat More Soup

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                                    LucH @Sugar
                                    last edited by Oct 27, 2024, 7:37 AM

                                    @Sugar said in What peaty substance is closest to cannabis/CBD on mental and physical relaxation?:

                                    I remember feeling properly relaxed with the right amount of CBD, not so much so THC, but I'm looking for something to guide with general relaxation at the house to lower stress and aid in meditation.

                                    I'd take into account habituation and the impact on neurons.
                                    For instance caffeine has 4-5 hours. CBD has a deleterious impact on neurons.
                                    If you drink more often coffee / tea, you'll get accustomed and it won't no longer make an effect. Saturation.
                                    L-theanine and bisglycinate magnesium could help.
                                    There are other clues. Up to you, whether you're receptive or not.
                                    Ever tried essential oils in a diffuser to prepare the relaxing atmosphere. Accompanied by a breathing exercise at an adapted heart rate, then CO2-bag breathing?
                                    Make a choice, according to your feeling and desiderata 😉

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                                      Ecstatic_Hamster @LucH
                                      last edited by Oct 27, 2024, 4:43 PM

                                      @LucH said in What peaty substance is closest to cannabis/CBD on mental and physical relaxation?:

                                      @Sugar said in What peaty substance is closest to cannabis/CBD on mental and physical relaxation?:

                                      I remember feeling properly relaxed with the right amount of CBD, not so much so THC, but I'm looking for something to guide with general relaxation at the house to lower stress and aid in meditation.

                                      I'd take into account habituation and the impact on neurons.
                                      For instance caffeine has 4-5 hours. CBD has a deleterious impact on neurons.
                                      If you drink more often coffee / tea, you'll get accustomed and it won't no longer make an effect. Saturation.
                                      L-theanine and bisglycinate magnesium could help.
                                      There are other clues. Up to you, whether you're receptive or not.
                                      Ever tried essential oils in a diffuser to prepare the relaxing atmosphere. Accompanied by a breathing exercise at an adapted heart rate, then CO2-bag breathing?
                                      Make a choice, according to your feeling and desiderata 😉

                                      CBD is not deleterious to neurons. Where did you get that idea. It helps inhibit excessive neuronal firing.

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                                        LucH @Ecstatic_Hamster
                                        last edited by Oct 27, 2024, 6:05 PM

                                        @Ecstatic_Hamster said in What peaty substance is closest to cannabis/CBD on mental and physical relaxation?:

                                        CBD is not deleterious to neurons. Where did you get that idea. It helps inhibit excessive neuronal firing.

                                        Cannabinoids reduce brain connectivity
                                        I know several studies demonstrate beneficial effects on pain. Mercola has written a thunderous article on the benefits of medical cannabis.
                                        I remember having heard a psychiatrist (radio interview) saying we lost partial connectivity from neurons, becoming useless. But as we only use 10 % of our capacity, problems shouldn’t arise, unless teenagers begin to regularly smoke cannabinoids. Marijuana is however safer than cocaine, but with new synthetic mix drugs, it’s another problem…
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                                        The study’s findings revealed significant disruptions in brain connectivity across several key networks after cannabis administration. These networks include the executive control network (ECN), salience network, hippocampal network, and limbic striatal network.
                                        Specifically, the ECN, responsible for higher-order cognitive functions like decision-making and cognitive control, showed reduced connectivity under the influence of both THC and THC + CBD.
                                        Source: New neuroscience research: CBD does not temper THC’s effects on brain connectivity, may enhance disruption. In PsyPost, by Eric W. Dolan July 23, 2024 in Psychopharmacology > Cannabis.
                                        https://www.psypost.org/new-neuroscience-research-cbd-does-not-temper-thcs-effects-on-brain-connectivity-may-enhance-disruption/

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                                          Ecstatic_Hamster @LucH
                                          last edited by Oct 27, 2024, 10:01 PM

                                          @LucH said in What peaty substance is closest to cannabis/CBD on mental and physical relaxation?:

                                          @Ecstatic_Hamster said in What peaty substance is closest to cannabis/CBD on mental and physical relaxation?:

                                          CBD is not deleterious to neurons. Where did you get that idea. It helps inhibit excessive neuronal firing.

                                          Cannabinoids reduce brain connectivity
                                          I know several studies demonstrate beneficial effects on pain. Mercola has written a thunderous article on the benefits of medical cannabis.
                                          I remember having heard a psychiatrist (radio interview) saying we lost partial connectivity from neurons, becoming useless. But as we only use 10 % of our capacity, problems shouldn’t arise, unless teenagers begin to regularly smoke cannabinoids. Marijuana is however safer than cocaine, but with new synthetic mix drugs, it’s another problem…
                                          Excerpt
                                          The study’s findings revealed significant disruptions in brain connectivity across several key networks after cannabis administration. These networks include the executive control network (ECN), salience network, hippocampal network, and limbic striatal network.
                                          Specifically, the ECN, responsible for higher-order cognitive functions like decision-making and cognitive control, showed reduced connectivity under the influence of both THC and THC + CBD.
                                          Source: New neuroscience research: CBD does not temper THC’s effects on brain connectivity, may enhance disruption. In PsyPost, by Eric W. Dolan July 23, 2024 in Psychopharmacology Brain > Cannabis.
                                          https://www.psypost.org/new-neuroscience-research-cbd-does-not-temper-thcs-effects-on-brain-connectivity-may-enhance-disruption/

                                          Thank you for posting this. It isn’t my experience and I don’t think this is much of a study. But I appreciate it. I never gave this one any credence. There are much better studies that show the opposite.

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