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    How bad is it really if I don't practice methionine/cystine restriction?

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      Pooooop
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      I can't take collagen/gelatin due to money issues. Am I cooked if I just eat chicken & beef? What am I missing out on?

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        yerrag @Pooooop
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        @Pooooop Missing out on gelatin is a big one.

        Not following restriction on methionine and cysteine makes it even worse.

        Better to have both of them to at least mitigate the effects of meth and cysteine.

        But there is plenty of gelatin if you choose your cuts well, and it's usually the cheaper cuts of meat that are tougher that contain more gelatin, and the expensive pieces of steak that are devoid of gelatin.

        Besides, the older we get, the less protein we need as we aren't anymore into building and growing our steucture, we're more into maintaining and preserving the structure.

        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
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        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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          A Former User
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          eat ground beef, it will likely have gelatin in it . you can see it when you cook and cool it

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            Pooooop @yerrag
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            @yerrag What cuts of meat have lots of gelatin?

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              Pooooop @A Former User
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              @sneedful Like 85/15 beef?

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                yerrag @Pooooop
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                @Pooooop

                Legs, calves, tail, skin, bone marrows, sinewy and tough cuts. The ones that are tough and are best sofves in casseroles and soups, and are not grilled or pan fried.

                Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                  A Former User @Pooooop
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                  @Pooooop yeah

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                    serotoninskeptic @Pooooop
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                    @Pooooop Eat ground beef, organs, broths

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                      LetTheRedeemed
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                      One bottle of Great Lakes gelatin lasts 3 people in my home about 3 weeks. That’s like 8 bucks a week.

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