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    • samsonS
      samson @solsasha14
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      @solsasha14 .5mg cypro before gym completely eliminates my post-gym fatigue. ray said this was caused by serotonin

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        solsasha14 @BroJonas
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        @BroJonas I think so... It's definitely a possibility though. Think I read something yesterday about a lack of ample calories inducing adrenaline response.

        Important to note that I don't get these symptoms while working out... and in fact, forcing myself to exercise briefly cleared my symptoms during its duration. However, they were worsened by a factor of 3 for the next day (in length and intensity)

        I'm going to try bringing some fruit juice with me next time to sip throughout...

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          solsasha14 @A Former User
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          @sneedful I've been using thiamine as well, I forgot to mention it in my original post.

          I'd be surprised to hear that viral particles can be stored directly in muscle tissue. Is the only way to get rid of it by continuing to exercise?

          Also, isn't 200g/day of protein a bit excessive? I remember reading a Broda Barnes passage where he discusses how excessive protein intake can result in hypothyroidism.

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            solsasha14 @samson
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            @samson I haven't been feeling many of the symptoms that I attribute to being in the high serotonin state.

            Also, wouldn't the cypro make me drowzy? I've heard lots of stories about how it would put people in long periods of sleep.

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            • samsonS
              samson @solsasha14
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              @solsasha14 Nausea, low appetite, and loose poops all potentially sound like serotonin symptoms. i get a complete reversal of all 3 of those from cypro. such a small dose doesn't make me sleepy, but everyone is different

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                A Former User @solsasha14
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                @solsasha14 they can and in lymph and other tissues.

                protein food intake depends on your overall calories. things are better for me on body recomp with way more protein than peatarians reccomend

                gelatin protein and calcium probably offsets the thyroid supression of meat protein

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                  A Former User @solsasha14
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                  @solsasha14 cypro drowsiness mostly goes away after accustomed
                  imo it makes euphoria that can lead to sleepiness jf you are just sitting around (quite enjoyable)
                  if you are in the gym and taking caffeine too it will probably just feel good

                  cypro + carrot salad or other light plant fibres like cucumbers + coffee and juice etc might be really good workout stack. maybe baking soda if you can fit it in

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                    A Former User @solsasha14
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                    @solsasha14

                    Consider adopting a High Intensity training routine, 1 workout every 4-5 days.

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                    • onliestO
                      onliest @A Former User
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                      @sneedful how much cypro do you take before working out

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                        A Former User @onliest
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                        @onliest I haven't tried it like that . anything up to 2mg might be good tho if you are accustomed to it already.

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                        • grymsky90210G
                          grymsky90210 @solsasha14
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                          @solsasha14 I doubt 0.5mg would make anyone drowsy, that's a teeny weeny dose

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                            onliest @grymsky90210
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                            @grymsky90210 i honestly get more tired at 0.5mg than a larger dose. I recall haidut saying on danny's podcast that some of his rower friends take 3-4mg

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                            • grymsky90210G
                              grymsky90210 @onliest
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                              @onliest do you remember what episode

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                              • LothricL
                                Lothric
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                                Interesting. I began workout out again recently as well and have had similar symptoms. Not any nausea but loose stools and upset digestion. I know lifting is a stressful event for the body. My symptoms aren’t as severe as yours but I also take 10 MeO Harmalen every morning which could be reduce symptoms but they definitely get worse through the day and especially post workout. Maybe I’ll try cypro and shift back to a HIT routine and less volume

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                                • onliestO
                                  onliest @grymsky90210
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                                  @grymsky90210 one of the earlier ones I'm not certain

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